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 Post subject: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:38 am 
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Victor I
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I'm wondering where Nipper was gone...


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Victor Monarch, Columbia BK, Columbia BNW, Zonophone model 3, HMV 130
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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:13 am 
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The record may have been produced for export to a country where the dog was considered to be an unclean animal.
Some HMV portables have a different transfer inside their lids for the same reason.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 8:52 am 
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For a period the German Deutsche Grammophon records had this label. I have a bunch of them, all seem to have been sold domestically, all labels are in German and some records have German shop tags. It could be linked to changes in property rights during the WWI, or maybe the Brits took Nipper back home and left the old gramophone for the Germans.


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:05 pm 
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Perhaps he's just run off to relieve himself, or grab a bite to eat from his dog bowl?


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:12 pm 
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gramophoneshane wrote:
Perhaps he's just run off to relieve himself, or grab a bite to eat from his dog bowl?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sLR0vgpeWI


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:28 pm 
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SQUIRREL! :squirrel: ---------------------->


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 3:24 pm 
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It was to do with copyrights actions against the German company from using the original "Nipper" trade mark, so I have been told many years ago. I have several of these records, all from a very short period. I assume that half a trademark was better than nothing!


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:49 am 
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I was told that the Gramophone Company and Lindstrom group swapped assets at the beginning of WWI to avoid their assets being confiscated as enemy property , so lindstrom got the German gramophone but without the dog ! i can't find any evidence though , but looking through files I had downloaded was this which is interesting about the two groups


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:56 am 
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I also found this relating to the period which again is great


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 Post subject: Re: Where is Nipper?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:58 am 
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soundgen wrote:
I also found this relating to the period which again is great



all of these can be viewed at this fantastic site , I guess most of you will know this

https://worldradiohistory.com/Talking_Machine_World.htm


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