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 Post subject: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:41 pm 
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what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot 12 x 12" white labels Non Vendibile 78's R ? 70165 matrix on one record


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 Post subject: Re: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:03 pm 
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A photo (somewhat tricky to do, reflecting a strong light on it) of the area where the matrix number is written would help, also if there's any other symbol or lettering at any place in the rumour area or under the label.
The upper part of the label seems to be a white plain half label stuck over the original, and done lettering below is guessed... Could be?
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There are others in eBay Italy!
Disco campione is not any particular brand, it means sample record :D
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 Post subject: Re: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:52 am 
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thanks for that , if anyone wants them they are free to collect from Bedford in the UK :D


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:57 am 
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If these are from the Cetra set of Turandot, they're pretty good recordings, as I've read, both for the recording technique and for the first line artistry.
Besides that, this aria is one of the less recorded, being not very popular...
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 Post subject: Re: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:02 am 
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These are test pressings - "sample record" "not for sale" as the label says. Sometimes a third stamp "to the attention of the Director" is also present.

For some reason these seem to be not as scarce as one might guess. I have a half dozen in my collection, randomly found in the wild.


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 Post subject: Re: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:35 am 
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Inigo wrote:
If these are from the Cetra set of Turandot, they're pretty good recordings, as I've read, both for the recording technique and for the first line artistry.
Besides that, this aria is one of the less recorded, being not very popular...



thee would seem to be this Cetra set I googled Turandot 70615 and got a link to a Puccini discography on Google Books
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EUT ... ot&f=false

Although there seem to be 29 sides and there are only 12 records of 24 sides in this lot

As I said it's free to anyone who wants it otherwise I'm afraid it is land fill :(


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 Post subject: Re: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:40 am 
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it's strange looking at the recording dates of the Cetra set that although all recorded in the same month not in sequence is that normal?


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 Post subject: Re: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:17 pm 
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What a pity not living there... If this set is Italian pressing, it's worth the effort! The most common pressings to be found (of this rare set) are loose copies, mostly the British Odeon-Parlophon, matter with cracking shellac. The Italian pressings are much better. This, as said by Ward Marston, who did the transfers of this set for Naxos. He said that is rare to find a complete set.
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 Post subject: Re: what's this ? Disco Campione Turandot
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:36 pm 
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Inigo wrote:
What a pity not living there... If this set is Italian pressing, it's worth the effort! The most common pressings to be found (of this rare set) are loose copies, mostly the British Odeon-Parlophon, matter with cracking shellac. The Italian pressings are much better. This, as said by Ward Marston, who did the transfers of this set for Naxos. He said that is rare to find a complete set.



I've just checked out Economy shipping to Spain and could send them for £26 :D


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