Rebuilding rubber idler wheels

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condenser
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Rebuilding rubber idler wheels

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Those of us interested in the somewhat later 3-speed record player type machines have probably faced the issue of vulcanised idler wheels - where the rubber has gone rock hard. Some years ago I used a company in USA that did good work - http://turntablebasics.com/idlerwheels.html

I tried them again in 2020. I sent them an idler wheel from an HMV autochanger for restoration, pre-paid as per instructions on their site. I sent it in September. There has been no response, no wheel returned, no answers to emails. I conclude that they are no longer in business, but you cannot tell that from their web site.

I suggest that none of us use that site again, unless you can make contact with them in advance. They accepted my payment but I have received no refund.

Does anyone know of a firm that can and actually does refurbish these wheels? Unfortunately I do not have the HMV wheel, as it has not been returned, so I am going to have to modify something else. The HMV one had a built-on axle rod about 2" long, not like a normal idler.

Thanks if you have any suggestions.

Regards

David Evans

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Re: Rebuilding rubber idler wheels

Post by pallophotophone »

condenser wrote:Those of us interested in the somewhat later 3-speed record player type machines have probably faced the issue of vulcanised idler wheels - where the rubber has gone rock hard. Some years ago I used a company in USA that did good work - http://turntablebasics.com/idlerwheels.html

I tried them again in 2020. I sent them an idler wheel from an HMV autochanger for restoration, pre-paid as per instructions on their site. I sent it in September. There has been no response, no wheel returned, no answers to emails. I conclude that they are no longer in business, but you cannot tell that from their web site.

I suggest that none of us use that site again, unless you can make contact with them in advance. They accepted my payment but I have received no refund.

Does anyone know of a firm that can and actually does refurbish these wheels? Unfortunately I do not have the HMV wheel, as it has not been returned, so I am going to have to modify something else. The HMV one had a built-on axle rod about 2" long, not like a normal idler.

Thanks if you have any suggestions.

Regards


Try http://www.kenselectronics.com/lists/phonodrive.htm When I rebuilt a wire recorder for use at Syracuse University, this company rebuilt a drive puck for a Webster Chicago machine.


Best Of Luck !!!

David Evans

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Re: Rebuilding rubber idler wheels

Post by OrthoFan »

Hi David:

Out of curiosity, I did a little googling and found that the site's owner is Tim or Timothy Morse -- https://www.google.com/search?lr=&as_qd ... CAw&uact=5 -- and it appears that others have complained.

As you know, except for the fax number and email/mailing address, the website provides no contact information for him which is always a bad sign. I DID spot some phone numbers associated with Tim Morse, and his address, and tried two, but neither seems to be working. If you want to check it out, here's a link -- https://www.truepeoplesearch.com/find/m ... hy/area/mn

It's a good idea, nowerdays, to always try to get recommendations. This forum is an excellent starting play, going forward, for questions about any type of phonograph related repair.

Good luck,
OrthoFan

Herman
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Re: Rebuilding rubber idler wheels

Post by Herman »

condenser wrote:
Does anyone know of a firm that can and actually does refurbish these wheels? Unfortunately I do not have the HMV wheel, as it has not been returned, so I am going to have to modify something else. The HMV one had a built-on axle rod about 2" long, not like a normal idler.

Thanks if you have any suggestions.

Regards

David Evans
Here is a link to another option for idlers.

http://www.terrysrubberrollers.com/

donniej
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Re: Rebuilding rubber idler wheels

Post by donniej »

If you can provide detailed specifications, I can make them out of silicone rubber. As long as specs can be provided, I can also machine a brass inner bushing.

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