Help with fixing first hand crank suitcase phonograph

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bruce_sutherland
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Help with fixing first hand crank suitcase phonograph

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Hi

I recently bought my first hand crank phonograph. It's a portable suitcase type with a really nice wood finish on the box so when I bought it I thought even if I can't get it to play I can at least use the box, but would be keen to try get it playing. I've opened it up to have a look and it has a JUNIOR motor from The General Industries Co. Elyria, Ohio U.S.A. inside.

The motor seems to run well enough, but I'm having issues with the tone arm. It looks to be quite stiff through the joint and getting it to play a record is proving difficult - it either sits too high or stops the record spinning. I did manage to get it to play a full side once when I first tried it out with a new needle, but now I can't seem to get it right again.

I've created a video showing the movement on the tone arm.
https://youtu.be/UHX2JgARKNU

Any advice on first steps and things to look out for before I try too much else to repair this?

Thanks

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mrrgstuff
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Re: Help with fixing first hand crank suitcase phonograph

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It's a nice looking machine and although I am not familiar with the model, the tonearm joint is too stiff. It should move smoothly so that you just lower the needle into the groove and gravity keeps it there.

The tonearm may be made of pot metal, which is an unstable alloy which swells over time. Gently working the joint back and forth may help, as may a little oil

As it has managed to play one side, it sounds like the motor spring is ok

You may find this video helpful:
https://youtu.be/BLw-L3HOp_c

Hope that helps and good luck.

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