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Myself & some friends are putting our collections online to create a complete overview of all cylinder players. Probably about 500 machines still to go. We will attempt at least 1 per week...........

Its just a start

enjoy

www.noedison.com

HI, Could you please explain how to get to the pictures of the machines. Does not appear that the links work.

Hence the mention that it is only a start!

The green box indicates where we already have some data. You can click on that Phonograph name and you will see details on the manufacturer, and the different types of phonographs that they made.

As I said, its just starting so there are less green dots than actual phono's hence probably a new one each week so in about 2 years there will be a lot of green

so for Example With Bial & Freund there is some data (though there is only 1 machine and in time the other models will also be pictured there.)

with American Melodieux (France) -> no green dot, we have not put any data / pics as yet

Just posed a phonograph from a French maker called Gallier. A an extremely rare machine, though not exciting as a phonograph not based on a Graphophone B. I have some catalog pictures and am working to complete the machine so that it can play cylinders. The horn was supported on a wooden extention arm.

www.noedison.com

This is a fantastic idea and I hope that the empty lines are soon filled. Hats off to your effort!

A marginalia: Despite the fact that the cylinder phonograph dominated the talking machine market in Great Britain until 1908, it is not by chance that only two British manufacturers, both with a very small output, are listed. The demand was almost completely supplied by imports from the U.S., Germany, France and Switzerland.

You wrote that Ernst Eisemann of Eisemann & Co. in 1896 successfully defended his main patent against Edison, and won.

Could you please tell me more about that patent dispute and name, or even better scan, your sources?

I notice you also are linking to the ROMFI site. What would be different about your initiative from that one? Seems you have concentrated on cylinder machines and have come up with a listing of all known models?

How many pictures would you post of each machine and how large would they be? On the few I've checked, you've posted just one small picture of each machine, even without horns. Would not several larger pictures of each machine showing details if possible, be better. Easy to say, I know. Perhaps not so easy to do.

Starkton wrote:You wrote that Ernst Eisemann of Eisemann & Co. in 1896 successfully defended his main patent against Edison, and won.

Could you please tell me more about that patent dispute and name, or even better scan, your sources?

Have a look here - page 16 of the document (18 of the PDF)
http://www.bosch.com/content/language1/ ... 999_de.pdf

Myself & some friends are putting our collections online to create a complete overview of all cylinder players

Good idea ! That will be a lot of work !

About the site:

Bial & Freund (Germany-Poland)

I don't think it's correct to say that these machines are Polish / made in Poland...
As Breslau (nowadays -indeed- Wroclaw) was at that time Germany, these machines are German made.

Calle wrote:

I don't think it's correct to say that these machines are Polish / made in Poland...
As Breslau (nowadays -indeed- Wroclaw) was at that time Germany, these machines are German made.

They were made by EWC in Köln - so yes of course German made. And of course you are right about Breslau, its one of those cities that has changed nationality a number of times, and has been at different times been either part of Poland, Bohemia, Austria, Prussia or Germany.