Horny Victor Machines

[Curt A]

George,
If you scan it and use the scanner dialog to set the preferences, you can select something like - gray scale photograph (as opposed to b&w or color photo) and set the image quality to 150 dpi or possibly less - down to 100 dpi and get the size picture file you want. It (the finished photo file) shouldn't be more than probably 1 to 1.5 MB or 1,000-1,500 KB to be able to upload... I don't know what scanner you are using or what imaging program comes up when you scan, but most have options to set image size and quality. If you are scanning at 300 dpi or 600 dpi, the image file will be huge. It would be nice to see the pamphlet in its entirety, if you don't mind re-doing it...

[gramophone78]

I vote for the babe...

I've had a couple of requests to show the 1917 Victor brochure I mentioned earlier in this thread. This brochure is 5 panels long, and my scanner can't accommodate that size, but I'll show the best parts. If I scan the long way, I must go in and rotate 90 degrees, and for some reason this makes the file too big to upload. I can barely show 3 panels, but I don't want to bend the paper the wrong way, so I'm afraid this is the best I can do. You can see all the models, but I should mention that the V has a Victrola-like automatic brake that doesn't show in the scan.

George P.

Thank you George,
It appears the Victor V is the same as our machine. With a Victrola pitch control and auto stop.

[Couch Potato]

So regarding the reply with the photo of the mahogany Victor V is that the original finish or has that been redone at some point? Any chance you can share a photograph of the motor in it so we can how it too might compare to earlier versions?

[gramophone78]

So regarding the reply with the photo of the mahogany Victor V is that the original finish or has that been redone at some point? Any chance you can share a photograph of the motor in it so we can how it too might compare to earlier versions?

The finish although original, has been heavily sun faded. The interior pic showing the motor also shows the rich red color the exterior once had.

Actually, the case always looks better in person. I guess the flash always makes her look lighter...??. We plan to leave her just as she was found. We only know of two others.
Here is a pic you requested.

[Couch Potato]

Thank you for the picture. It has the "quad" gear motor. Curious about motor base castings on late external horm Victors. I see in the Victor Data book that the last serial numbers ones generally had quad motors, but I am always wondering if the quad gears are assembled on to the old style castings that go with the double cut gear type. Any one else have photos of quad motors in external horn machines?

Yes the mahagany Victor V is one rare bird to have in one's collection thank agian for sharing picstures of it.

[gramophone78]

Thank you for the picture. It has the "quad" gear motor. Curious about motor base castings on late external horm Victors. I see in the Victor Data book that the last serial numbers ones generally had quad motors, but I am always wondering if the quad gears are assembled on to the old style castings that go with the double cut gear type. Any one else have photos of quad motors in external horn machines?

Yes the mahagany Victor V is one rare bird to have in one's collection thank agian for sharing picstures of it.

Thanks for the info and the compliment. Here is the motor label inside the case.Thanks again to George P. we may have learned something new. Based on the Victor V pamphlet description.....the machine was supplied with an Exhibition reproducer. Therefore, maybe the Victrola #2 it was found with is not correct. I have now placed an Exhibition back on it...George, always in your debit... .

This now leads me to wonder about something else. May 1917 was still during the war. Supply's were restricted to many manufactures. Surely, given this and the fact these type of external models were out of favor by this time......a very limited number of these machine's must have been made/sold...??.

[phonogfp]

Thanks again to George P. we may have learned something new. Based on the Victor V pamphlet description.....the machine was supplied with an Exhibition reproducer. Therefore, maybe the Victrola #2 it was found with is not correct. I have now placed an Exhibition back on it...George, always in your debit... .

This now leads me to wonder about something else. May 1917 was still during the war. Supply's were restricted to many manufactures. Surely, given this and the fact these type of external models were out of favor by this time......a very limited number of these machine's must have been made/sold...??.

You're very welcome. This is what I do...

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And Now It's Time for...Phonograph Phact or Phiction??

1) "Based on the Victor V pamphlet description.....the machine was supplied with an Exhibition reproducer. Therefore, maybe the Victrola #2 it was found with is not correct..."

But remember that the pamphlet is dated May 1917 while you report that your Victor V bears a date of 1918. By then, the Victrola No. 2 soundbox had been introduced, so it may well be original to your particular Victor V.

2) "May 1917 was still during the war. Supply's were restricted to many manufactures. Surely, given this and the fact these type of external models were out of favor by this time......a very limited number of these machine's must have been made/sold...??."

May 1917 was indeed still during the war, but the United States had entered the war only the previous month. Despite the war, Victor's production of Victrolas (particularly the less expensive models) continued, and we may presume by their surviving numbers that they were in high demand. I believe the scarcity of late Victors (as compared to Victrolas) is due almost entirely to low demand for them; particularly in North America.

And That's All The Time We Have for This Installment of...

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Phonograph Phact or Phiction??

Sorry...it's been another long day...!

George P.

[gramophone78]

Thanks again to George P. we may have learned something new. Based on the Victor V pamphlet description.....the machine was supplied with an Exhibition reproducer. Therefore, maybe the Victrola #2 it was found with is not correct. I have now placed an Exhibition back on it...George, always in your debit... .

This now leads me to wonder about something else. May 1917 was still during the war. Supply's were restricted to many manufactures. Surely, given this and the fact these type of external models were out of favor by this time......a very limited number of these machine's must have been made/sold...??.

You're very welcome. This is what I do...
George P.

What dress up like Larry, Curly or Moe ???. Funny, I had you pegged as Shemp kind of guy...... .
Yes, clearly our machine is post 1917. Therefore, the Victrola #2 may be correct as found. The #2 certainly sounds a little better... . I can also confirm the case size remained at 18" by 18" as mentioned in your pamphlet.
Phascinating Phacts just the same.

[phonogfp]

You're very welcome. This is what I do...
George P.

What dress up like Larry, Curly or Moe ???. Funny, I had you pegged as Shemp kind of guy...... .

I'm clearly the Curly type...at least I have the same haircut!

George P.

[Edisone]

oh well! i gues some of you guys had a stack of national geographics at home when you where a kid and not for the scenic landscape's!!

tino

Nat'l Geos had TONS of beautiful VICTROLA ads, which is why I perused them with vigor!

ps: Youze Guyz have no idea how difficult it was for me to keep this from letting somebody turn it into another ass-hattery thread. haha.