Which horn and crane would be correct for an early Concert? I would like to get the correct time period it. Also, it has a model D reproducer. Would this be right?
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What's the serial number of your Concert?
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I would think that it would be some type of Cygnet horn...judging by the fully horizontal reproducer carriage mounting.
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Your Concert may have originally been equipped with the Automatic reproducer but the D is a period correct upgrade. The buyer of a Concert was buying what was then the pinnacle of phonographs. That type of owner would likely be anxious to keep his machine as a top performer. The D reproducer was a logical purchase and upgrade. Jerry Blais
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04009phonogfp wrote:What's the serial number of your Concert?
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Thanks Jerry.Jerry B. wrote:Your Concert may have originally been equipped with the Automatic reproducer but the D is a period correct upgrade. The buyer of a Concert was buying what was then the pinnacle of phonographs. That type of owner would likely be anxious to keep his machine as a top performer. The D reproducer was a logical purchase and upgrade. Jerry Blais
Is it safe to use on the records more so than the automatic?
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It looks 4009?
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This horn question is a good one..
I searched YOUTUBE!, and I see that most are using just a 14" witches hat with a metal elbow, though I doubt that this is the correct horn setup either for the Concert.
But have no fear, I checked Frow's very last book, and it states that your Model Edison Concert came with a 26" All Brass Horn, and A matching floor horn stand. It does not say whether the horn was attached by rubber tube or metal elbow though.
I also agree, The machine would have some with the Automatic Reproducer, not the one that is currently there, but may have been upgraded later by the owner.
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I searched YOUTUBE!, and I see that most are using just a 14" witches hat with a metal elbow, though I doubt that this is the correct horn setup either for the Concert.
But have no fear, I checked Frow's very last book, and it states that your Model Edison Concert came with a 26" All Brass Horn, and A matching floor horn stand. It does not say whether the horn was attached by rubber tube or metal elbow though.
I also agree, The machine would have some with the Automatic Reproducer, not the one that is currently there, but may have been upgraded later by the owner.
Tony K.
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Usually a 36" to 60" brass horn with floor stand is commonly found on this machine. No room you say - then a 14" brass with a 45 degree end or a 14" straight with a 45 degree adapter works fine.Amberola wrote:Which horn and crane would be correct for an early Concert? I would like to get the correct time period it. Also, it has a model D reproducer. Would this be right?
It's easier to find an automatic reproducer than a model D, so you should consider yourself lucky it was upgraded along the way.
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I have seen Concerts that were "upgraded" to use a cygnet horn, but it's doubtful (never say never) it was a factory option, dealer maybe, owner probably.
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A Concert with a floor crane could take a multitude of horn options. Jerry
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