Help identifying this Victor

[rgordon939]

I need help identifying this Victor machine. Is it a Victor VV-XVII and if so what is a a fair price to pay fot it?

Rich Gordon

[Mr Grumpy]

Yes, she's a mahogany VV-XVII (or could be a vv-130).

Not an expert on price, sorry. Maybe a $1000? (a complete guess on my part)

[brianu]

definitely a XVII or 130... is it complete? is it functioning? has any restoration been done? are the albums there? I'd say a fair price turns on all of that.

[OrthoSean]

It's an XVII, not a 130. The 130 had door knobs with small circles in their faces while the XVII uses just plain ones like these unless, of course, they've been swapped. Another difference is the 130 uses a used needle drawer instead of a cup, which you can see looking under the lid, so we can't tell. Agreed on the above statements, price depends on a number of factors.

Sean

[Henry]

Nice; the scratches might be amenable to Howard's Feed 'n' Wax or similar (maybe lemon oil). How's the mechanism? I think a big one is a tad higher than I'd want to pay for it, but Baumbach (LFTD, p. 202) says between $1K and $1.8K.

[Phonolair]

Agreed it looks like a mahogany XVII.

Price wise my opinion differs, 10 or 12 years ago it would have brought $1000 plus. But today I think a more realistic price is $650 to $750.

Best Regards, Larry

[brianu]

a few years ago I sold a pristine - and I mean, truly pristine and fully original - mahogany 130... it really looked showroom perfect, from the finish to all of the plating on all of the hardware and even the original turntable felt... the reproducer was perfectly rebuilt, as was the motor, which had four new springs and ran better than any other machine I've ever owned. it also had all of the extras, the key, a full set of albums, and even the matching record index and the original buyer's package/envelope, with the accompanying instructions and paperwork. people, especially on ebay, say this far too often, but this was indeed a museum piece. as I remember, I sold that for 1750. the only flaw I can think of was the brake leather, it squeaked a bit, but I really wanted to keep everything as original as possible (so only replaced springs and reproducer gaskets and such). someone has been trying to sell one for the same price on ebay, it just doesn't compare... otherwise, these seem to range in value... I've seen them unrestored but in decent shape, minus all the extras, often enough, including at wayne, for 600 to 800. condition and completeness I should think is really everything, especially when the prices push toward the high end.

[rgordon939]

Thanks everyone for the input. I thought they were worth more than that.

Rich Gordon

[Pathe Logical]

[quote] The 130 had door knobs with small circles in their faces while the XVII uses just plain ones...[quote]

Not so --- some late VV-XVIIs also had the door knobs with small concentric circles on their faces. These later VV-XVIIs usually also have Victrola No. 2 reproducers instead of the earlier Exhibitions.

Bob

[Curt A]

I need help identifying this Victor machine. Is it a Victor VV-XVII and if so what is a a fair price to pay fot it?

Rich Gordon

So, I guess the big question is this... How much is the seller asking for it?