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Can anyone help me with any information on these parts? I think they are from a cylinder phonograph. I'm thankful for any replies.
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Well, a French musical museum lists it as an Enregistreur, which means recorder. The horn shape would bear that out. They further state that it's Belgian. Apart from the accompanying pic, that's all the info.
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Thanks for the help :)

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As you may see with the box, this unit had been sold in Germany:
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Tne company had been registered (in Berlin) in early 1925.
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Do you find any (patent) numbers on the parts?

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1925? Well, that cancels the cylinder player idea. Home recording device for a disc machine?

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Definitely for a disc machine, as cylinder machines had been out of favour here in central Europe and Germany till c. 1910. Maybe it recorded (on the disc) in hill and dale. But, without the patent, it will be difficult to understand the function.

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Odeon wrote:Definitely for a disc machine, as cylinder machines had been out of favour here in central Europe and Germany till c. 1910. Maybe it recorded (on the disc) in hill and dale. But, without the patent, it will be difficult to understand the function.
Help me out here, translation wise.
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In short: With the "Retor-Sprechmachine" (Retor Talking Machine) you recorded on discs made out of wax. In the shown article the "Retor-Sprechmachine" had been used by scientist for a kind of sound archive (old folk songs). See also: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/unbekannt_ ... chine.html

May be similar to this patent:
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I thought so. Feldforschungen. Field research-field recording. Wachsshallplatten- wax records... This is beginning to get interesting. Thank you!

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