Edison CLT DD machine questions?

[bruv]

There is a local machine for sale and the lady sent a couple of pictures. It has CLT on the brass plate. I can't find it in any of the books or on line. What the heck is this machine? Is it one of the common DD's or non common?
She wants $250 for it which I think is high with 25 records. What do you guys know about this? Thanks for any help.
Dave

[52089]

That is a Schubert, one of the late "Edisonic" models (the other being the Beethoven). It is an uncommon machine well worth $250, especially if it has the correct Edisonic reproducer. Also, since this was not introduced until 1927, the odds are good that the discs may include some of the desirable electrical recordings (numbers 52089-52651). This one looks a bit worn and the crank looks wrong, but it's still worth checking out.

Put another way, if that were anywhere near me, I'd be on the phone making my appointment right now!

Frow mentions a model called the "Consolette" that no one has ever seen. Speculation is that the name was changed to Schubert, but the "CLT" designation remained.

I'd suggest you search the board for more information about the Schubert.

[DGPros]

It's an Edison Shubert. Not a bad price at all if the reproducer and long play are in working order. How is the veneer? What records are included? I would assume some later ones since this model was made near the end. Need more info.


update: I should mention that the long play didn't come with the Schubert, but would be a plus if it did have it.

[DGPros]

Put another way, if that were anywhere near me, I'd be on the phone making my appointment right now!

Frow mentions a model called the "Consolette" that no one has ever seen. Speculation is that the name was changed to Schubert, but the "CLT" designation remained.

I'd suggest you search the board for more information about the Schubert.

Ditto,

fyi, there is one in south Jersey for sale. They are asking $300 yet no one will go near that price. I have heard it is in bad shape, I don't believe any records and no word on the reproducers.

[bruv]

Thank you all for the info. I'll go take a look and get some good pictures. This may be a dumb question, but what do I look for with the reproducer and just look for the numbers on the records which if they are in that electrical range, those are more desirable?
Dave

[DGPros]

52089 is the start of the Electric series. (Notice the name of the other poster here) Are they all worth a lot? No, it depends on the artist and shape of the record.I have my preferences that may differ, as music often does. Visually looks good, but how it sounds is just as important (I have seen both good looking and ok sounding,though typically they sound good, and bad looking and good sounding)The Edisonic reproducer has a larger weight. The diamond should also be tested as many are chipped and will ruin records if used. Simple trick is run it on the smooth area of the record, Does it leave a mark? Then it's bad. Ask for more pictures, or go and look at it yourself. I believe most are single spring. but there are cases of dbl spring on these units.I'm sure others can chime in and/or correct me if needed.

[52089]

Put another way, if that were anywhere near me, I'd be on the phone making my appointment right now!

Frow mentions a model called the "Consolette" that no one has ever seen. Speculation is that the name was changed to Schubert, but the "CLT" designation remained.

I'd suggest you search the board for more information about the Schubert.

Ditto,

fyi, there is one in south Jersey for sale. They are asking $300 yet no one will go near that price. I have heard it is in bad shape, I don't believe any records and no word on the reproducers.

The one in Barnegat that has been on Craigslist for over a year now has had its legs replaced and has visibly bad veneer. Who knows what else might be wrong with it...

[bruv]

Thanks for the help. I'll get a good look.
Dave

[bruv]

I went to take a look today. I was disappointed. They bought the records at a flea market, so no electrical ones, the cabinet had been refinished, crank replaced, no front horn cover, no lid hold-open, the reproducer didn't lift up to move it to play position, that was all mis-adjusted, turntable didn't stop turning, and so forth. I didn't really press them about price, but I know they would talk down quite a bit. If anyone is interested, I could get it for you and I could meet Jerry Burney on his trek to Union to have it delivered, ( I haven't asked, but he usually does that for a nominal fee). Anyway, if you have an interest, let me know and we can talk further. Sorry for the pictures. It was so dark in there that it was difficult to see and I hoped the flash would show things.
Dave

[bruv]

Last of the pictures.
Dave