I didn’t know that the person was on the forum. I did not intend to criticize his work in any way, but I must admit I do not agree with the finishing material used. It is also entirely possible that the lighting does indeed misrepresent the finish. Oh well, at the end of the day all I hope is that someone ends up enjoying this thing.
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Personally I find it amusing to no end that some people who were criticizing the methods he uses in other threads are now defending him here. Whatever, as I said, I'm glad it wasn't trashed either, but I still think there are better methods. That's only my opinion, the machine is pictured before anything was done in the thread I linked and it didn't look like it needed anything more than a good cleaning, but what do I know, I've only done that with hundreds of them
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I was going to make the same comment about before/after pics. Having seen the before pic, I wouldn't have done anything more than cleaned it. I would have bought it in "before" condition. I would not be a potential buyer in "after" condition.OrthoSean wrote:Personally I find it amusing to no end that some people who were criticizing the methods he uses in other threads are now defending him here. Whatever, as I said, I'm glad it wasn't trashed either, but I still think there are better methods. That's only my opinion, the machine is pictured before anything was done in the thread I linked and it didn't look like it needed anything more than a good cleaning, but what do I know, I've only done that with hundreds of them
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Well to clarify "my thoughts exactly", I wouldn't have done anything to it other than clean it and wax it. I think the same effect could have been accomplished while preserving the original finish. I'm not saying it was a good choice, I just thing the job was well done.OrthoSean wrote:Personally I find it amusing to no end that some people who were criticizing the methods he uses in other threads are now defending him here. Whatever, as I said, I'm glad it wasn't trashed either, but I still think there are better methods. That's only my opinion, the machine is pictured before anything was done in the thread I linked and it didn't look like it needed anything more than a good cleaning, but what do I know, I've only done that with hundreds of them
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Martin,
No worries, I wasn't singling anyone out! Everyone is entitled to an opinion. When I was a teenager I refinished a few common Victor floor models in poly and crappy minwax stain. It was simply because I didn't know any better.
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No worries, I wasn't singling anyone out! Everyone is entitled to an opinion. When I was a teenager I refinished a few common Victor floor models in poly and crappy minwax stain. It was simply because I didn't know any better.
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I criticized the glossy and overdone machine that had been shown in the earlier post. But I see a different machine here. One that may not be a perfect match in materials and color, but one that is still a very nice looking L-Door Victrola that will probably make the new owner very happy and may excite others about antique pnonographs. I also appreciate that the restorer was so willing to listen to comments that were probably not too easy to hear. He seemed open to the ideas shared, so when I see this machine, I will not attack it and I hope that like with so many of us, his restorations become more historically correct. If we only want to appeal to purists, then I do believe that our beloved hobby will fade away along with us.OrthoSean wrote:Personally I find it amusing to no end that some people who were criticizing the methods he uses in other threads are now defending him here. Whatever, as I said, I'm glad it wasn't trashed either, but I still think there are better methods. That's only my opinion, the machine is pictured before anything was done in the thread I linked and it didn't look like it needed anything more than a good cleaning, but what do I know, I've only done that with hundreds of them
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Actually, mahogany machines are dyed yellow before application of the mahogany oil-based stain.EarlH wrote:You also cannot get the color that Victor used on their cabinets using oil based stains. Victor dyed those cabinets with almost boiling hot water stain, but it was really a dye. And most people now really don't like the colors used on the furniture 100-120 years ago. Collectors are a different animal though. But if your whole house is full of "Ethan Allen Cherry" furniture, than this is a much closer match. Victorians for the most part really didn't get wrapped around the axle about everything in the house being exactly the same color. That really got to be a big deal after WWII. L-door Victrolas are nice, but they really aren't all that rare.
I refinished a mahogany C-19 40 years ago and got some lacquer based "mahogany" stain. It was made by "Blonde-it" for those of us old enough to remember that brand name. Anyway, it came out looking like a 1957 hollow core door and I thought it looked awful. It really was beyond awful. I had no idea what to do and they guy at the paint store said it would darken up when I put the finish on. Well, he was wrong and it still looked like a hollow core door. This was in 1981, so I just decided to take my lumps and put it on an auction to get rid of it. So I put a bunch of diamond disks in it and hauled it off, and that dumb ugly thing sold for $650.00! The most I have ever gotten out of a diamond disk machine. When the check came in the mail, I called the auctioneer because I thought he wrote the check out for the wrong amount. He said the people that got it were tickled to death with that thing. Oh well....
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