Does anyone here know where one of these uncommon machines is standing. A long time ago - if memory serves me correct - I saw a photo which apparently was made in a wood panelled room of an Italian collection / museum.
I am looking to find out what was the correct motor and tone-arm.
The cabinet in real life is quite fancy with different wood veneers and polished brass embelishments.
Thanks, grazie mille!
Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
Even bottom-of-the-line gramophones in Italy are scarcer than saffron and truffles. Much scarcer, actually. The only serious museum that I can think of and might possibly have pieces of that rarity and glamour is the Museo Pelagalli, although I don't recall it having wood-paneled rooms:
http://www.museopelagalli.com/index_UK_INIZIO.htm
Are you sure you hadn't see it in the Phono Museum of Paris perhaps?
http://phonomuseum.fr/
http://www.museopelagalli.com/index_UK_INIZIO.htm
Are you sure you hadn't see it in the Phono Museum of Paris perhaps?
http://phonomuseum.fr/
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
I'd love to see some pictures of your incomplete machine. Especially if it still has the turntable and coin mechanism.
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
Thanks for the leads. museopelagalli definitely not.Marco Gilardetti wrote:Even bottom-of-the-line gramophones in Italy are scarcer than saffron and truffles. Much scarcer, actually. The only serious museum that I can think of and might possibly have pieces of that rarity and glamour is the Museo Pelagalli, although I don't recall it having wood-paneled rooms:
http://www.museopelagalli.com/index_UK_INIZIO.htm
Are you sure you hadn't see it in the Phono Museum of Paris perhaps?
http://phonomuseum.fr/
Jalal also not
The motor is the issue...its missing. Which is why locating the complete one will be a huge boost, in that I see what I need to look for (or maybe already have?)
fingers crossed!
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
It may have been in Marco's collection in Italia.Sidewinder wrote:Does anyone here know where one of these uncommon machines is standing. A long time ago - if memory serves me correct - I saw a photo which apparently was made in a wood panelled room of an Italian collection / museum.
I am looking to find out what was the correct motor and tone-arm.
The cabinet in real life is quite fancy with different wood veneers and polished brass embelishments.
Thanks, grazie mille!
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
Its a but buried in the basement under a few boxes, but here a sample.
IMPERATOR was a company that was originally a manufacturer of disc format music boxes.
IMPERATOR was a company that was originally a manufacturer of disc format music boxes.
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
Unfortunately not, I'm afraid!gramophone78 wrote:It may have been in Marco's collection in Italia.
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
Sorry, different Marco... .Marco Gilardetti wrote:Unfortunately not, I'm afraid!gramophone78 wrote:It may have been in Marco's collection in Italia.
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
For whatever it's worth, I have a "Swissie" type machine with Spanish dealer tags that has an Imperator reproducer. If you need a photo, I can provide one. The motor in my machine was either Thorens or Paillard, I forget which, a single-spring post-and-plate affair that wouldn't play a 12" record on a winding. I had it replaced with a similar two-spring motor that will handle a 12" record, but I kept the original in case I ever sold the machine and the buyer wanted it. Again, assuming I can dig it out, I'd be happy to provide a photo, but I can't imagine a machine as grand as the one under discussion would have come with such a wimpy motor.
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Re: Imperator 53 Coin-op monster
Thanks would be very interested to see the reproducer .drh wrote:For whatever it's worth, I have a "Swissie" type machine with Spanish dealer tags that has an Imperator reproducer. If you need a photo, I can provide one. The motor in my machine was either Thorens or Paillard, I forget which, a single-spring post-and-plate affair that wouldn't play a 12" record on a winding. I had it replaced with a similar two-spring motor that will handle a 12" record, but I kept the original in case I ever sold the machine and the buyer wanted it. Again, assuming I can dig it out, I'd be happy to provide a photo, but I can't imagine a machine as grand as the one under discussion would have come with such a wimpy motor.