Puritan

[jnorman111]

(J.M.J.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgWA-PJ3b0

"I Wonder What's Become Of Sally" This 78 has 238 printed on the label below Puritan Dance Orchestra, and also etched in the run-off area is 238 B at 6 O'clock position, maybe matrix number, as the record number is 11355-A indicating the record side, and the flip side is 11355-B "Rose Marie".
There is also in the 12 O'clock position, also etched in the run-off area, a number 11008 B-1 Anyone know what that number means, possibly take 1, but what would the rest of that number indicate
This Puritan 78 does not have the usual Puritan locations printing on the label. Neither United Phonograph Corporation, Sheboygan, Wisconsin, or The New York Recording Labratories Of Port Washington, Wisconsin, it has no location mentioned, and it is not the other Eastern U.S. A. Putitan record company, as the logo is one of the Puritan stylized logos that were used by the Wisconsin firm.

[Viva-Tonal]

(J.M.J.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SgWA-PJ3b0

"I Wonder What's Become Of Sally" This 78 has 238 printed on the label below Puritan Dance Orchestra, and also etched in the run-off area is 238 B at 6 O'clock position, maybe matrix number, as the record number is 11355-A indicating the record side, and the flip side is 11355-B "Rose Marie".
There is also in the 12 O'clock position, also etched in the run-off area, a number 11008 B-1 Anyone know what that number means, possibly take 1, but what would the rest of that number indicate
This Puritan 78 does not have the usual Puritan locations printing on the label. Neither United Phonograph Corporation, Sheboygan, Wisconsin, or The New York Recording Labratories Of Port Washington, Wisconsin, it has no location mentioned, and it is not the other Eastern U.S. A. Putitan record company, as the logo is one of the Puritan stylized logos that were used by the Wisconsin firm.

And a look on 78discography.com is even stranger! It also shows this record (at least one version of it) was also released as Paramount 20355.

As for what's shown for Puritan 11355:

mx 11009: Harry Voltaire and his orchestra//'Lonely little melody'

mx 11025: Chic Winters Orchestra (Bar Harbor)//'Rose Marie'

THEN....info for a 11355A....

mx 238B (11008B): Puritan Dance Orchestra//'I wonder what's become of Sally'; then the note '(reverse labeled as 11353A)'!

But under the listing for Puritan 11353 (and there's only a 11353A shown--just the one side):

mx 1881-1: Golden Gate Ramblers//'I want to be happy' with the note that it was also on Paramount 20353 (and 'reverse labelled as 11355A'). And alone among these listed titles is given a recording date of 16 September 1924.

Must be some sort of frankenpressing....

[jnorman111]

(J.M.J.)

Thanx Viva-Tone, it is interesting but confusing. A NYRL of PORT WASHINGTON, Wisconsin "expert" I talked with on a phone call this afternoon told me about the Paramount release being 20355, and he also said that this song "I Wonder What Became Of Sally" was maybe recorded in the Eastern U.S. around 1921-22, and maybe was released previous to the NYRL on maybe Banner or one of the Grey Gull labels, and that NYRL had bought, from various record companies, a lot of those type of recordings rights in the early 1920s, and then released them again under their various labels.
I was also able to learn from him that the Puritan Phonograph, Model No. 200, Serial No. 347, that I own and filmed the posted here playing , was made by the United Phongraph Corporation of Sheboygan, Wisconsin a company associated with NYRL of Port washington, Wisconsin, but that the manufacturing of the Puritan Phonograph, was a separate part of their business, but was never connected with the NYRL although the companies were owned by the same Bostwick family, but the Port Washington operation was almost entirely operated by the Moeser family. This was a surprise for me, as I had thought that the Puritan phonograph would have been a general part of that same business. I then would guess that the Paramount Phonograph which was made by NYRL is without any relationship to Puritan Ponographs Interesting stuff.