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Angus555+
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Needles and nails

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Just curious about needles. I’ve just been sharpening but more so taking the rust off old needles . I was wondering can one use small nails for needles or are needles made from a special metal …and also I have a HMV 102 phonograph can I use soft and loud needles on shellac records

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New needles are available quite cheaply. Throw the old ones out, and don't even bother with nails.

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Lucius1958 wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:47 pm New needles are available quite cheaply. Throw the old ones out, and don't even bother with nails.

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Don’t think nails are a good idea!

With a HMV 102 you can use what you like, but the thicker (louder the tone) the more damage to the records.

I have several 102s and always use extra soft or soft tone needles for earlier records that are quieter.

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leels1 wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:05 am Don’t think nails are a good idea!

With a HMV 102 you can use what you like, but the thicker (louder the tone) the more damage to the records.

I have several 102s and always use extra soft or soft tone needles for earlier records that are quieter.
Thanks I’ll sure take that advice seriously 8-) :shock:

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Please, use only new needles. Use the needle for only one play, then throw it away.

(Nails are for pounding into wood. They will destroy records.)

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JerryVan wrote: Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:47 pm Please, use only new needles. Use the needle for only one play, then throw it away.

(Nails are for pounding into wood. They will destroy records.)
Yes I have been thanks for your input but I was thinking about very fine tacks anyway I will try to find some new ones somewhere while trying to get some jazz records I mean i only have a couple atm and in the land down under it’s hard to find things.

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As I understand it, gramophone needles were (and still are) cut, profiled (shaped), hardened, then tumble-polished. I think it would be extremely difficult to replicate the latter three processes on a D-I-Y basis...
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In Australia and NZ there are strong gramophone fans groups, you should be able to locate a needle supplier near you...
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