Hello All,
I recently acquired two Edison Gem Model D versions. Yes, collecting is a hobby/obsession *shrugs*
I have noticed that they both have slightly different Placards. I can't figure out what the justification would be to alter the Placards at the factory, does anyone have any information on why this would be?
Please refer photos attached
Edison Gem Placards
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- Victor VI
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
The second one has an additional patent from 1907 listed. This kind of thing happened with cylinder record boxes too.
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- Victor Jr
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
It would be far to say the top placard would be made earlier based on the lack of the additional patent.
They are both combination types
They are both combination types
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
The top data plate is the same type used on Gem Model Bs and Cs. The bottom data plate is numbered nearly 10,000 units later, includes a later patent, and added "Combination Type" at the top. It was simply a matter of using up the supply of earlier style data plates.
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
Hello,
Your patent dates is the key as they good for 17-20 years so most smart company's tweak out the product to get another 17-20 years from the last patent date.
Edison had so many variation of these transitional machines that is a great way of collecting these great machines is by the patent dates.
Very cool how you identify that as that is a large part of my collection is by variations and patent dates.
Kind regards,
Mark
Your patent dates is the key as they good for 17-20 years so most smart company's tweak out the product to get another 17-20 years from the last patent date.
Edison had so many variation of these transitional machines that is a great way of collecting these great machines is by the patent dates.
Very cool how you identify that as that is a large part of my collection is by variations and patent dates.
Kind regards,
Mark
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
Steve, it's interesting that on your Gem E plates, the later serial number is on the earlier style plate. It shows once again that inventories were mixed during transitions.
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
Previous discussion here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43483&p=256027&hili ... te#p256027
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
Thanks for linking in the previous discussion. The way things were done in the factory and all the slight variations in placards, parts used and such, is what makes this hobby so captivating.
Is anyone here able to place an approximate production date on there machines?
Many thanks
Is anyone here able to place an approximate production date on there machines?
Many thanks
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Re: Edison Gem Placards
Concerning the Gem Es pictured above, the upper pic is of a regular 4 min Gem E and the lower pic is a 2 minute ICS (International Correspondence Schools) 2 minute Gem E.