What Model Is It? (Update: Possibly Odeon)

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What Model Is It? (Update: Possibly Odeon)

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I feel like I have seen this cabinet before in a Deutsche Grammophon catalog, but the basic lines appear to be different. Thoughts?

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/13 ... phonograph

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Re: What Model Is It? Deutsche Grammophon?

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I would be surprised if this was of Deutsche Grammophon/HMV origin.
Whether it is or it isn't, there are several aspects of concern.

The top is rough and unfinished, suggesting that a decorative pediment may be missing.
An electric motor appears to have been fitted, with the power lead emerging from the redundant winding hole.
The soundbox looks like an HMV No.4 of later date.

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Re: What Model Is It? Deutsche Grammophon?

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Judging by the design of the wood inlays, it is an "Odeon" model made by the International Talking Machine Co. circa 1910. I assume that it has been altered or the condition is fragmentary.

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Re: What Model Is It? Deutsche Grammophon?

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Starkton wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:59 pm Judging by the design of the wood inlays, it is an "Odeon" model made by the International Talking Machine Co. circa 1910. I assume that it has been altered or the condition is fragmentary.
Yup, that makes a ton of sense. Thanks!

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Re: What Model Is It? (Update: Possibly Odeon)

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Re: What Model Is It? (Update: Possibly Odeon)

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Were you thinking of this?

https://grammophon-platten.de/e107_plug ... c.php?9206
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I thought of these models from 1909. Note the design of the wooden inlays.
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Re: What Model Is It? (Update: Possibly Odeon)

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The tonearm and bracket strongly resemble an early Gramophone Company pattern, inverted. Is it possible that a a furniture maker assembled it from bits from different sources? The layout is reminiscent of Odeon, but also Klingsor and Pathé.

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Re: What Model Is It? (Update: Possibly Odeon)

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Starkton wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:35 pm I thought of these models from 1909. Note the design of the wooden inlays.
Wow. The inlay similarity is pretty impressive...

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