It is claimed that this is a 1909 HMV "hornless" machine.
It does not seem to have a 1909 patina.
And the horn grill does not look 1909ish, either.
What, pray tell, is this machine?
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FBM - Peculiar (Suspect) 1909 HMV Table Top - Vanocuver, BC
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Re: FBM - Peculiar (Suspect) 1909 HMV Table Top - Vanocuver, BC
Fake imitation of the Pigmy? The hmv label is from the late forties the sooner...
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Re: FBM - Peculiar (Suspect) 1909 HMV Table Top - Vanocuver, BC
Interesting. Thank you.
The horn grill looks real. But all the Pigmy models I can find are front winders, and this machine is not.
The unit as a whole looks sort of legitimate, apart from the additions of the grill and the HMV label. It does not look like a hack and chop Frankenphone.
I wonder what the machine was before it was dressed up as a Pigmy.
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Also, as you can see... the brake and speed regulation handle seem much later.
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Re: FBM - Peculiar (Suspect) 1909 HMV Table Top - Vanocuver, BC
It doesn't have the Pigmy Grand tone-arm or "quick release" back-bracket, designed to enable this part to be dismantled for transport. It would be interesting to see all sides of the cabinet though. Can you get any more pictures?
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Whatever it may or may not be it looks real except perhaps for what looks like some sloppy cutting above the horn grill, but even this, if it is a Frankenphone modification, looks old.
Curious.
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Curious.
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In the photo of the back, something can be seen in the back wood board where the black throat is attached: the wood has been cut and the grain looks different, there is a noticeable division line at the left of the black throat.
I bet it's a later 1918-20 Victrola vi or similar which has been modified to look as the older Pigmy model.
I bet it's a later 1918-20 Victrola vi or similar which has been modified to look as the older Pigmy model.
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Re: FBM - Peculiar (Suspect) 1909 HMV Table Top - Vanocuver, BC
I noticed that too Inigo. Look also at the grill. A very irregular, amateur attempt!Inigo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:42 pm In the photo of the back, something can be seen in the back wood board where the black throat is attached: the wood has been cut and the grain looks different, there is a noticeable division line at the left of the black throat.
I bet it's a later 1918-20 Victrola vi or similar which has been modified to look as the older Pigmy model.