Art Nouveau style Pathéphone for auction.

[Steve]

Yes, I'm the person who "stole" it! It'll cost me 3 times the hammer price to persuade a friendly Shiply courier to collect it under the strict auction house regime and then deliver it to me at my convenience.

Here's hoping I receive the complete machine.

[CarlosV]

Yes, I'm the person who "stole" it! It'll cost me 3 times the hammer price to persuade a friendly Shiply courier to collect it under the strict auction house regime and then deliver it to me at my convenience.

Here's hoping I receive the complete machine.

Well done, Steve! You got certainly something quite rare and obscure. Please enlighten us about its details - motor, soundbox etc - when you get it in your collection. And even adding shipment at three times the hammer price, it is still dirty cheap!

[Steve]

Yes, I'm the person who "stole" it! It'll cost me 3 times the hammer price to persuade a friendly Shiply courier to collect it under the strict auction house regime and then deliver it to me at my convenience.

Here's hoping I receive the complete machine.

Well done, Steve! You got certainly something quite rare and obscure. Please enlighten us about its details - motor, soundbox etc - when you get it in your collection. And even adding shipment at three times the hammer price, it is still dirty cheap!

Thank you, Carlos. Yes, it is still cheap. I would have happily paid £300 for it. I still believe it could be one of THE first Pathé gramophones offered in the UK, until someone can prove otherwise.

[Curt A]

Speaking of Pathé, are any of the advertising roosters ever found in Europe? I have two different versions standing on 10" record bases and Mike Lund has one on a 12" record base.

[CarlosV]

Speaking of Pathé, are any of the advertising roosters ever found in Europe? I have two different versions standing on 10" record bases and Mike Lund has one on a 12" record base.

I have never seen one in Europe. I think they were only produced in the USA.

[jamiegramo]

Speaking of Pathé, are any of the advertising roosters ever found in Europe? I have two different versions standing on 10" record bases and Mike Lund has one on a 12" record base.

I don’t remember seeing one even in France but they might exist. Rene Rondeau might know. There is a rare stereoview of one with Edison which is well worth looking out for!

[jamiegramo]

Congratulations on buying this unusual machine. At the moment the only example seen by the learned folks on here!

[Curt A]

Speaking of Pathé, are any of the advertising roosters ever found in Europe? I have two different versions standing on 10" record bases and Mike Lund has one on a 12" record base.

I don’t remember seeing one even in France but they might exist. Rene Rondeau might know. There is a rare stereoview of one with Edison which is well worth looking out for!

Hi Jamie,
I made that Edison stereo view as a joke... I also discovered the original NewYork sculptor who designed the roosters, but wondered if they only existed in the US...

[Inigo]

From Curt A, with love...

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Curt... How'd you make TAE appear behind the chicken? Fine work!

[Steve]

I'm extremely grateful to Paul Baker, forum member, "Dulcetto", for providing a scan from Talking Machine News and The Soundwave which confirms this is a 1908 machine and called the "Rigoletto", available from £15. It was joined by two other more expensive cabinet models, the Tosca at £20 and the "Carmen" at £39, the latter two both in Chippendale style mahogany.

What is even more surprising is the same ad which confirms that Pathéphone models 2 - 14 were indeed available to the British market albeit with letter designations. This new information (to me) has given rise to a number of questions, for instance, if the Pathé 14 - an incredibly rare machine, even on the continent where only 2 or 3 are known to exist - was available here as the "O", have any survived?

Thank you again, Paul, I will try to add the scans here shortly.
Best,
Steve