Thanks for that ! However, when you feel the need to resort to low criticism of this nature it shows you don't even believe the words you write. Point is that if you take the time to imagine the transformation a stylus goes through over time, from brand new to just about able to play a record then you need to consider the dimensional change the stylus goes through, meaning that there is a point "A" through to a point "Z", point "A" being new from the EDISON factory (for example) & Point "Z" where it's removed & replaced, therefore does it not follow that the points between are neither "A" nor "Z" but a continuous transition from 1 to another & as such perfectly acceptable , therefore does it not also follow that a stylus made from a similar material (Sapphire= Aluminium bath origin, apparently) with a point the size & conical form somewhere between "A" & "Z" would essentially do the same job without damaging a recording ?
As Mark Twain once said, that seems to be relevant here=
" It's not what we don't know that get's us into trouble, it's what we know for sure...........that just ain't so.
Replacement stylus for an Edison diamond reproducer
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Re: Replacement stylus for an Edison diamond reproducer
That is orginal way of one making two small Amberols out of one!herrickpickups wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2025 11:30 am Hi, thanks for the link, since I put this Question up I drilled out the broken tip & replaced it with a period sapphire made for a Hyper sensitive pickup from the 30's-50's period & amazingly, it works, doesn't leave any new marks on a blue amberol. Great ! I used the loctite retaining compound (638) so tha if it didn't work it could be removed with a soldering iron .

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Re: Replacement stylus for an Edison diamond reproducer
Hi All,
Ya know this sometimes takes place in an area that I have worked in for nearly 50 years... What this Gentlemen was asking for was comments on a "what if" If you look at his web site you can see that he knows something about sound reproduction.
Yes, there are standards for almost everything but occasionally someone steps out of the box just to see if something will work that is different from everything that has been done in the past even if it fails.
For instance everyone knows what a pain a Victor 10-50 is with all of its pot metal parts that fail to the point that a number of us basically said that the machine was a lost effort. There were a number of individuals that produced various reproductions of those parts with limited forms of success-and yes these individuals could make those parts work (God bless them) but at times it could still be a real challenge.
And then can along Mark Lynch with a young man,Bronson Bach and Mark said "I am not going to make reproductions of those Victor parts I am going to make new parts and eliminate all the others" With Bronson doing some of the fabrication work in 3D printing they came up with a working solution to this problem and that's what they did. It works-is it the same-no
In the art world (where I have worked) there is a process that has been used by art restorers for 100's of years-almost everyone accepts it, but I looked for a simpler less complex solution and working with a couple of other guys and a museum got that process to work. Does everyone use it-no but after the last 5 years it has gained some traction and it makes the job for those of us who want to work in the consumer rather than institucional arena easier
We have experts on this forum and I value their effort and guidance, but I see no reason not to let someone step out of the box...just my 25 cents worth (inflation)
Abe
Ya know this sometimes takes place in an area that I have worked in for nearly 50 years... What this Gentlemen was asking for was comments on a "what if" If you look at his web site you can see that he knows something about sound reproduction.
Yes, there are standards for almost everything but occasionally someone steps out of the box just to see if something will work that is different from everything that has been done in the past even if it fails.
For instance everyone knows what a pain a Victor 10-50 is with all of its pot metal parts that fail to the point that a number of us basically said that the machine was a lost effort. There were a number of individuals that produced various reproductions of those parts with limited forms of success-and yes these individuals could make those parts work (God bless them) but at times it could still be a real challenge.
And then can along Mark Lynch with a young man,Bronson Bach and Mark said "I am not going to make reproductions of those Victor parts I am going to make new parts and eliminate all the others" With Bronson doing some of the fabrication work in 3D printing they came up with a working solution to this problem and that's what they did. It works-is it the same-no
In the art world (where I have worked) there is a process that has been used by art restorers for 100's of years-almost everyone accepts it, but I looked for a simpler less complex solution and working with a couple of other guys and a museum got that process to work. Does everyone use it-no but after the last 5 years it has gained some traction and it makes the job for those of us who want to work in the consumer rather than institucional arena easier
We have experts on this forum and I value their effort and guidance, but I see no reason not to let someone step out of the box...just my 25 cents worth (inflation)
Abe