Greetings,
Many years ago I traded away a mint Edison model L Amberola reproducer for a model H to complete the set of things for my Edison model D combination 2/4 machine. The model L was still in its wooden box, with the cover, packing, and instructions.
When I handed the gentleman the model L he opened one of his display cases and said: "pick one". Looking back now that I am better aware of the value of the model L, it seems that maybe he should have better said:
"pick 4 or 5".
My question is this: Would it be bad form of
me to remind him of this now and see if he might even things out a little? There are a few things I am looking for that he might have.
Just asking to bounce this off of others to
see what people think.
Thanks,
Chuck Richards
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Re: Question about old trade
Chuck,
I wouldn't. The way I look at it is a deal is a deal. If somebody wants to trade me a nice Opera for a beat down Standard, I'll do it and not expect the trader to bother me later about it! If the buyer wants to even things up a little on the next deal, that's up to him but the seller shouldn't initiate it. It's all part of learning. I have traded some stupid stuff in my younger (and older) days and that's all part of the buying, selling and trading game.
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I wouldn't. The way I look at it is a deal is a deal. If somebody wants to trade me a nice Opera for a beat down Standard, I'll do it and not expect the trader to bother me later about it! If the buyer wants to even things up a little on the next deal, that's up to him but the seller shouldn't initiate it. It's all part of learning. I have traded some stupid stuff in my younger (and older) days and that's all part of the buying, selling and trading game.
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Re: Question about old trade
Chuck, I'm sorry but it's water under the bridge and you've learned a lesson. I would like to think that a trade should be good for both parties and not one sided. I think an experienced collector has some responsibility to inform a less experienced collector the real terms of the trade. For example, years ago I had a Triumph for sale. A less experienced friend offered a very unusual Edison sign in trade. I made it very clear that he will see many Triumphs over the years but probably not a sign that unusual. He thanked me and said the Triumph was his desire so we traded. We were both happy with the trade and are friends to this day.
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I would suggest that any new collector get acquainted with a more experienced collector with the hope of a genuine friendship. We all need someone to bounce ideas back and forth and to offer advice. Before I bought my Edison doll I made two or three calls. I continue to call collector friends for their opinions. It's a lonely world for an inexperienced buyer facing a major purchase. I have given my phone number to offer my best blind over the phone appraisal. I have always added the promise that I will never step on anyones toes to slip ahead to make a selfish purchase for personal gain. It's really important to always keep the value of your good name as your focal point. Jerry Blais
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I would suggest that any new collector get acquainted with a more experienced collector with the hope of a genuine friendship. We all need someone to bounce ideas back and forth and to offer advice. Before I bought my Edison doll I made two or three calls. I continue to call collector friends for their opinions. It's a lonely world for an inexperienced buyer facing a major purchase. I have given my phone number to offer my best blind over the phone appraisal. I have always added the promise that I will never step on anyones toes to slip ahead to make a selfish purchase for personal gain. It's really important to always keep the value of your good name as your focal point. Jerry Blais
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Re: Question about old trade
Sadly, you got the short end in that trade. But once the deal is concluded there's go going back to renegotiate.
I think we've all been there, done that, so it's unfortunately just a part of the learning process, the cost of education. I made a trade in 1979 that still makes me sick whenever I think about it. It's my own fault, I let my excitement over something I wanted to get override my better instincts. I got screwed, pretty badly in retrospect, but no one put a gun to my head.
I think we've all been there, done that, so it's unfortunately just a part of the learning process, the cost of education. I made a trade in 1979 that still makes me sick whenever I think about it. It's my own fault, I let my excitement over something I wanted to get override my better instincts. I got screwed, pretty badly in retrospect, but no one put a gun to my head.
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Chuck,
You've received good advice above, and I can't state it any better. Don't feel bad about this - - as said before, we've all been inexperienced and had advantage taken of us. That's no shame on you; the guy who screwed you must ultimately deal with that karma. Education is expensive.
I could possibly make you feel better about your deal by sharing with you a deal I made in 1973. I traded away a Berliner Trade Mark Gramophone with a nice flat-belled horn, 2-ball governor, and complete except for a missing crank and missing record clamp. Right out of a house - never messed with. I traded that for a caseless 2nd model Q Graphophone with repro horn, key, and reproducer; plus a Standard disc machine Model X with a repaired & shortened mainspring that wouldn't play through a 10" record. Now do you feel better?
I soon learned the value of a Berliner Gramophone - but not quite soon enough!
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You've received good advice above, and I can't state it any better. Don't feel bad about this - - as said before, we've all been inexperienced and had advantage taken of us. That's no shame on you; the guy who screwed you must ultimately deal with that karma. Education is expensive.
I could possibly make you feel better about your deal by sharing with you a deal I made in 1973. I traded away a Berliner Trade Mark Gramophone with a nice flat-belled horn, 2-ball governor, and complete except for a missing crank and missing record clamp. Right out of a house - never messed with. I traded that for a caseless 2nd model Q Graphophone with repro horn, key, and reproducer; plus a Standard disc machine Model X with a repaired & shortened mainspring that wouldn't play through a 10" record. Now do you feel better?

I soon learned the value of a Berliner Gramophone - but not quite soon enough!
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Re: Question about old trade
Chuck, I have to agree with what others have said. When you make a deal, even a bad one, you have to let it go. We all make mistakes. The thing to do is learn from them and move on.
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Re: Question about old trade
If it helps I traded away an Edison model D repeating attachment years ago for a pile of 20's Radio Digest magazines that I wanted for an article I was writing. My thinking was " When am I ever going to find a Home or a Triumph that I can afford?" Oh the follies of youth in those pre-Ebay days......
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Ouch, that was a raw deal! Did he include a tube of spring grease in that bargain?
It sounds like he knew what he was doing, too. I would have no more dealing with such a "gentleman".

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Re: Question about old trade
Turn the question inside-out, if you will: would you consider revisiting every "great deal" you've had and, by virtue of feeling guilty, offering more compensation? I think not. And the best deals are the ones in the future, dwelling on ones from the past is worse than counterproductive.