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Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:32 pm
by Phonofreak
dd2u wrote:
What is the green horn for?
This machine is a Pathé Jour et Nacht(spelling). This means day and night. It is a convertible machine that can either be open horn or inside horn. According to what I've read, the out side horn is for playing the records during the day. At night time for a quieter volume, you took off the horn and bracket. Then you turned the arm upside down along with the reproducer, and inserted the arm into the socket. Now the machine is an internal horn one. I have that machine exactly like the one in the photo. It's a really cool machine. If anybody has any more info on this machine, I would like to know.
Harvey Kravitz
Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:52 pm
by Orchorsol
Phonofreak wrote:dd2u wrote:
What is the green horn for?
This machine is a Pathé Jour et Nacht(spelling). This means day and night. It is a convertible machine that can either be open horn or inside horn. According to what I've read, the out side horn is for playing the records during the day. At night time for a quieter volume, you took off the horn and bracket. Then you turned the arm upside down along with the reproducer, and inserted the arm into the socket. Now the machine is an internal horn one. I have that machine exactly like the one in the photo. It's a really cool machine. If anybody has any more info on this machine, I would like to know.
Harvey Kravitz
Jour et Nuit.
There are still quite a few left in France, a search on
http://www.leboncoin.fr for gramophone or phonographe will probably turn up a few! Like this one,
http://www.leboncoin.fr/decoration/3953 ... tm?ca=17_s
Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:44 am
by epigramophone
[quote="briankeith"]My favorite is the chair - but for the life of me I don't understand the concept?
I sometimes see chairs with musical movements built into the base, which are actuated when an unsuspecting person sits down. Perhaps the chair pictured performs a similar function.
These chairs certainly have more class than a whoopee cushion......
My favourite of the machines pictured is the Swiss Chalet, which I have never seen before.
Wonderful pictures. Please keep them coming.
Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:09 am
by Steve
That Pathé Jour Et Nuit machine is often seen on French Ebay as well. However PLEASE BE AWARE, 99% of them are FAKES! This design is one of the easiest to replicate with 'spare' horns (a common sighting in France for some bizarre reason unique to this country) and REPRODUCTION back-brackets.
Many otherwise boring table top cabinets are 'converted' into desirable horn machines!
I also had an example of one of these and to be honest the difference in volume of sound between the tiny internal horn and external horn is quite marginal to say the least!
Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:02 am
by Orchorsol
Steve wrote:That Pathé Jour Et Nuit machine is often seen on French Ebay as well. However PLEASE BE AWARE, 99% of them are FAKES! This design is one of the easiest to replicate with 'spare' horns (a common sighting in France for some bizarre reason unique to this country) and REPRODUCTION back-brackets.
Many otherwise boring table top cabinets are 'converted' into desirable horn machines!
I also had an example of one of these and to be honest the difference in volume of sound between the tiny internal horn and external horn is quite marginal to say the least!
I've never experienced one of these, but always thought that must be the case! If anything, easier with the 'Jour' external horn to "put a sock in it", as the old saying goes, to make it quieter...
Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:23 am
by CarlosV
dd2u wrote:
What is the green horn for?
That is a machine called Pathé Jour et Nuit (Day and Night). By switching the arm support, the sound can be routed to the external horn (louder) or to the internal one(softer). A nice concept - this machine must have been very popular at the time, as there are many around today.
Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:07 am
by Steve
A nice concept - this machine must have been very popular at the time, as there are many around today.
Carlos, there is a good reason for the high number around today - I think you need to read my post above!

Re: Just some cool phonographs
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:23 pm
by gramophone78
Steve wrote:That Pathé Jour Et Nuit machine is often seen on French Ebay as well. However PLEASE BE AWARE, 99% of them are FAKES! This design is one of the easiest to replicate with 'spare' horns (a common sighting in France for some bizarre reason unique to this country) and REPRODUCTION back-brackets.
Many otherwise boring table top cabinets are 'converted' into desirable horn machines!
I also had an example of one of these and to be honest the difference in volume of sound between the tiny internal horn and external horn is quite marginal to say the least!
A good example of how some European sellers try to pawn off a repro for an original.....

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