BA23040 New Colonial March from 1912 - Copyright Dispute

[edisonphonoworks]

They did this to me, and I had real fun with them.....I had sent them a a copy of a $43,000,000,000.00 license fee bill I had sent the RIAA and the bylaws for the North American Phonograph Company.

[Valecnik]

Claim already withdrawn. This one MAY BE over however I've also had situations where one claim is withdrawn and a few days later some other agency files a claim. We'll see.

By the way, I would avoid accepting the claim because, as has been mentioned, it gives them the right to stick advertising all over it which I like to avoid when they really don't own the material.

[VintageTechnologies]

I am curious how those copyright extortionists go about selecting videos to target. Do they scan the video titles, or match audio patterns?

I have one possible idea to combat it: suppose a video had an extremely generic title, such as "VintageTechnologies Video #32" and no decription. Suppose it was NOT flagged as public domain. Suppose the only way to identify the song and artist was seeing a video of the record label at the end of the song, would they pick up on that? Due to the volume of new postings on YouTube, to manually view every new video looking for a copyright violation ought to really slow the extortionists down. No doubt, fewer people would search and find your videos if posted that way, but many of us already know to subscribe or look on channels of our favorite posters for new videos.

Thoughts?

[FloridaClay]

I would be about 99.9% confident that the screening is computerized. No way they are going to do that manually with zillions of posts.

I did notice that I did not have the problem when I posted a video with the name of the machine in the title rather than the name of the song played on the machine to demonstrate it.

Clay

[CptBob]

I would be about 99.9% confident that the screening is computerized. No way they are going to do that manually with zillions of posts.

I did notice that I did not have the problem when I posted a video with the name of the machine in the title rather than the name of the song played on the machine to demonstrate it.

Clay

You can get smart phone Apps for tune recognition. I don't get on with smart phones myself - too small! But even something like that is impressive, given that it was correctly identifying most of the tunes we were playing in a pub. It wasn't fool proof though, it couldn't recognise the Welsh National Anthem. I'm sure that computerised screening would be pretty systematic and accurate, as long as they had a record of the recording in their database.

Failing that, the name of the machine in the title seems to be the way to go.

[Frankia]

Having checked my own channel after reading the last few posts, I see a video that I uploaded some days ago which has no title or information of any kind typed in from me, and it also has a claim attached to it.

[Orchorsol]

In the UK, composers have copyright over their music until 70 years after their death - I know this from producing commercially sold recordings in the past, and taking out Mechanical Copyright licences.

Additionally, performers (or whoever they sold the rights to) have copyright until 70 years after the recording date - obviously not relevant to UK records of the era we're interested in, however, but I believe that position is more complicated in the US.

I imagine that 99%+ of those Youtube claimants are just chancers though, and nothing to do with the above.

[Zwebie]

I have downloaded over 600 cylinders on YouTube, and have always won my disputes by using this statement:

This 103 year old record is well past the 75 year copyright limit for recorded material, and at 100 years old, its content has become public domain. My intention is to share these cylinders, as a reference, for fellow collectors and historians. I would like to keep my uploads, “add free”. Please do not claim ownership to content just so you can stick adds on them! Thank You!

It works every time! Feel free to copy and use it in your disputes, (you may have to change the age).

Good Luck, Bob S.

[mrphonograph]

copyright and athorright are tricky subjects with many loop holes and hyates in the laws concerning them that a content is a 100+ years doesnt imediatly mean its free from copyrights if i produce a cd with contend of above age than the whole cd namely the selection from 1 to 25 becomes subject to copyright when i digitaly prosses the recordings even more so i changed the content in a way made it my own i worked on it its my artwork in that case i can copyright somone elses music and with the selection on a cd its the same my mix on cd is my mix i worked on it so its mine
a lot of these laws have changed over the last 20 years because of dj's mixing up other peoples music with ensuring this beeing their mix they can avoid up to 60% of the copyright fees and basicaly so can you! by saying you altered the recording you can claim atleast a part of it
its krooked bud sadly true

with author rights there arealso loops and hyats
if my father f.i. is a musician i can prolong the autor rights by becomming active in the creation of my fathers work f.i. by claiming a part of the work this is called the lennon-mccartney efect even dough paul mccartney had no actual part in the composing of a lot of lennon-mccartney songs he can stake a claim to them and the lennon-mccartney will give revenue untill 75 years after the death of paul mccarney
in this way a tune thats over that 75 year mark can still be authorrighted because of a second party
you can also publish your work under the name of a organisation in this way you ensure revenue till 75 years after the organisations death wich might be never

as far as i'm concerned its all compete and utter bulshit! (sorry for the pun)trying to get money from inocent users
they must get it throug their thick heads that copyright is a outdated system a artist no longer gets rich from a no1 hit no he gets ritch from exposure the more people download his song the more people watch him on youtube (f.i. psy w gangnam style)if millions of people seen or heard you you can be certain that you can fill a large sports stadium for one of your concerts
and thats how artists make money these days not dumb copyrights on dumb records


greetings
tino