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Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:31 pm
by DrRosenthal
Loved your post, Whoopinola!

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:07 pm
by Mr Grumpy
I'd agree that I'm too impatient. I'm sure it will come along, but why not drive to Union, and grab it when I have a chance (before the Mrs. changes her mind).

I'd also agree that I loved Whoopinola's post and would just like to say for the record I'm a very honest person (too a fault probably) and am just curious as to what the rules are when border crossing. I never really shop across the border accept by internet and usually never get charged duty.

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 1:03 pm
by Torjazzer
Mr Grumpy wrote:Just to reiterate my issue with finding a good machine locally.

http://ontario.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell ... Z464378648

This is the first Credenza I have seen locally (after roughly 6 months of searching),
and it really isn't THAT local as it's about a 10 hour drive from Toronto.

“Adventures do occur, but not punctually. Life rarely gives us what we want at the moment we consider appropriate.”
-E.M. Forster
I understand your frustration. I wish we had something like Union in Southern Ontario. Alas, trolling Kijiji and networking through contacts is our lot. However I found my beautiful Credenza on Kijiji so it does happen; "...but not punctually".

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:19 pm
by epigramophone
whoopinola wrote:As a retired Canada Customs Inspector , I can speak with experience..You will pay HST on the declared value minus what 'tourist exemptions" that you might qualify for...Let me tell you a story of an incident that happened many years ago..I was working at the Ambassador Bridge Windsor Ont...I was in the secondary exam area , it was a sunday late afternoon...A van pulled under the exam area with a referal slip that said "$150 declared Please Examin"...The importer was an asian fellow..who opened the side door of his van to reveal a van full of Edison, and Victor outside horn machines...parts , motors etc....He starts off with "It's all old stuff..not worth anything"
...I replied.."Just getting back from Union"...."That Edison Standard there , 2 minute or 4"..."I wanted to go there this year but couldn't get the time off"...."Now sir, I'm going to take a strole around your van , and when I get back here you will tell me EXACTLY what you have paid!!!...He replied"$7500.....so I walked him into the office and made him pay on $5,000, and gave him proper shite all the way......He could have lost it all , and the van as well...Moral , don't fib
As a retired Tax Inspector I can also speak from experience.

If you ask a seller to write you a receipt for less than you actually paid, many will be only too willing to oblige, especially if you are paying in cash. They will then declare the lower figure in their accounts and pocket the difference.

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:39 pm
by Tinkerbell
Hi Jerry!

Just wanted to say you're sounding pretty chipper considering you were just mugged in the Philippines yesterday... :shock:

Actually, I wanted to make you aware that somebody is spoofing your email address as I just got this email today allegedly from you:

I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came down here to Manila Philippines for a short vacation unfortunately we got mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash,credit card and cell were stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with us.

We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping the issues at all and our return flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills,

I'm freaked out at the moment and i need your urgent help.


Thought I'd let you know in case others may have conversed with you outside of this forum through email and received the same message. :rose:

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:31 pm
by alang
Tinkerbell wrote:Hi Jerry!

Just wanted to say you're sounding pretty chipper considering you were just mugged in the Philippines yesterday... :shock:

Actually, I wanted to make you aware that somebody is spoofing your email address as I just got this email today from supposedly you:

I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came down here to Manila Philippines for a short vacation unfortunately we got mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash,credit card and cell were stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with us.

We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping the issues at all and our return flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills,

I'm freaked out at the moment and i need your urgent help.


Thought I'd let you know in case others may have conversed with you outside of this forum through email and received the same message. :rose:
Hi Tinkerbell,
in fact, this might have been caused by virus/malware/phishing code either on your PC, on Jerry's PC, or on any PC that has both your email addresses in the local email address book. These bad programs use locally stored email addresses to spoof emails to all other addresses. There are many variations out there. I would advise both of you to check your computers with up to date scanning software (McAfee, Norton, MS security Essentials, etc). You can find descriptions of similar scams with a simple google search. Make sure to scan and change passwords once confirmed that it's clean.
Andreas

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:41 pm
by Tinkerbell
alang wrote:
Tinkerbell wrote:Hi Jerry!

Just wanted to say you're sounding pretty chipper considering you were just mugged in the Philippines yesterday... :shock:

Actually, I wanted to make you aware that somebody is spoofing your email address as I just got this email today from supposedly you:

I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came down here to Manila Philippines for a short vacation unfortunately we got mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash,credit card and cell were stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with us.

We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping the issues at all and our return flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills,

I'm freaked out at the moment and i need your urgent help.


Thought I'd let you know in case others may have conversed with you outside of this forum through email and received the same message. :rose:
Hi Tinkerbell,
in fact, this might have been caused by virus/malware/phishing code either on your PC, on Jerry's PC, or on any PC that has both your email addresses in the local email address book. These bad programs use locally stored email addresses to spoof emails to all other addresses. There are many variations out there. I would advise both of you to check your computers with up to date scanning software (McAfee, Norton, MS security Essentials, etc). You can find descriptions of similar scams with a simple google search. Make sure to scan and change passwords once confirmed that it's clean.
Andreas
Thanks, Andreas. Actually, since I do some work in IT, my systems are all scanned nightly, and I use a random password generator so passwords are always changed. That said, as a safeguard, I performed another scan today. All good here.

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:50 pm
by kirtley2012
Tinkerbell wrote:
alang wrote:
Tinkerbell wrote:Hi Jerry!

Just wanted to say you're sounding pretty chipper considering you were just mugged in the Philippines yesterday... :shock:

Actually, I wanted to make you aware that somebody is spoofing your email address as I just got this email today from supposedly you:

I'm writing this with tears in my eyes,my family and I came down here to Manila Philippines for a short vacation unfortunately we got mugged at the park of the hotel where we stayed,all cash,credit card and cell were stolen off us but luckily for us we still have our passports with us.

We've been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping the issues at all and our return flight leaves in few hours from now but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills,

I'm freaked out at the moment and i need your urgent help.


Thought I'd let you know in case others may have conversed with you outside of this forum through email and received the same message. :rose:
Hi Tinkerbell,
in fact, this might have been caused by virus/malware/phishing code either on your PC, on Jerry's PC, or on any PC that has both your email addresses in the local email address book. These bad programs use locally stored email addresses to spoof emails to all other addresses. There are many variations out there. I would advise both of you to check your computers with up to date scanning software (McAfee, Norton, MS security Essentials, etc). You can find descriptions of similar scams with a simple google search. Make sure to scan and change passwords once confirmed that it's clean.
Andreas
Thanks, Andreas. Actually, since I do some work in IT, my systems are all scanned nightly, and I use a random password generator so passwords are always changed. That said, as a safeguard, I performed another scan today. All good here.
i had the same email tinkerbell!

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:58 pm
by 52089
whoopinola wrote:As a retired Canada Customs Inspector , I can speak with experience..You will pay HST on the declared value minus what 'tourist exemptions" that you might qualify for...Let me tell you a story of an incident that happened many years ago..I was working at the Ambassador Bridge Windsor Ont...I was in the secondary exam area , it was a sunday late afternoon...A van pulled under the exam area with a referal slip that said "$150 declared Please Examin"...The importer was an asian fellow..who opened the side door of his van to reveal a van full of Edison, and Victor outside horn machines...parts , motors etc....He starts off with "It's all old stuff..not worth anything"
...I replied.."Just getting back from Union"...."That Edison Standard there , 2 minute or 4"..."I wanted to go there this year but couldn't get the time off"...."Now sir, I'm going to take a strole around your van , and when I get back here you will tell me EXACTLY what you have paid!!!...He replied"$7500.....so I walked him into the office and made him pay on $5,000, and gave him proper shite all the way......He could have lost it all , and the van as well...Moral , don't fib
Is there no customs duty exemption in Canada on antiques? Here in the USA, you can import, duty free, anything more than 100 years old. You do still have to declare the value, but it does not count towards your usual exemptions.

Re: Is Union JUST a sale? Please read!

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:10 pm
by whoopinola
There was/is an exemption of duty on antiques of 100 years plus..at the time of my tale , 25 years ago, most gramophones were not exempt as they were not yet of age...As of today, anything US made is duty free under the NA Free Trade Tarrif..but that doesn't exempt the sales tax , and I'm not sure , being out of the loop for 10 years, that antiques are exempt of sales tax now, no matter how old they are.