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52089 wrote:

alang wrote:Funny thing is that the etched label is still there if you remove the paper labels. Not sure if that was only for some time, or on all paper label DDs.
Andreas

I've never seen an etched label under a paper label. Perhaps they did that with some paper label pressings of records that were originally etched? I could see doing that so that they didn't have to create a new master.

Most paper label records have only a plain surface underneath that the label glues to. (That is, until the label falls off as so many of them have over the years.) The record number is pressed into the otherwise unmarked surface.

Well, it had to happen sooner or later - I actually found a paper label glued onto an engraved label on a Diamond Disc. Actually, it looks like there is an intermediate label that has the record number in a raised format, with the usual paper label glued on top of that. Of course, if the (top!) label hadn't been torn this particular way, I would never have noticed this. You can clearly see the rings, title, and artist of the engraved label in this photo. Curiouser and curiouser...

I've seen that too- and do not think it is glued over an etched label. I think they took an old stamper & used it on a blank intended for a paper label, leaving an impression in the underlayer

estott wrote:I've seen that too- and do not think it is glued over an etched label. I think they took an old stamper & used it on a blank intended for a paper label, leaving an impression in the underlayer

I took a look at it under a loupe and I think you're probably right! There is definite evidence that the paper underlabel was actually stamped that way. Since this was a junker anyway, I scraped a bit of the underlabel off and there is no strong impression of the text on the actual disk.