Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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A number of people in this forum have described their various techniques for removing and installing springs. If you search this forum, you should get plenty of ideas. I use a monster vise to clamp the spring barrel between curved wooden blocks to keep both hands free for uncoiling and recoiling the springs. I use thin nitride/cotton gloves from an automotive store to handle powerful springs (like the Triumph!) without cutting my hands. There is nothing like uncoiling a slippery greasy spring to focus your attention! I reload dry springs and pack them with black moly-lithium grease afterward. The purists may favor vaseline mixed with graphite powder instead. You can't pack too much grease; the excess will ooze out. After the spring has been wound/unwound a few times, the grease will squish around and be completely distributed.

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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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springs are back in their barrels and oozing with grease...
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now I have a problem with the pulley transmitting power to the upper works. it is way too swollen to turn without rubbing all over the place; there is no way I can adjust it as there is not sufficient room. :?

so the options I'm thinking about are:
- re-machining the old pulley so it fits
- find a better pulley
- make a new pulley
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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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Bravo for being brave enough to tackle Triumph springs! I've done springs in the past, but I'd be too chicken to do that " pack them in a can" operation that the deep barrel entails. I'm watching this thread because I have purchased a Triumph A that I have yet to bring home, and it will need the treatment.

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Lenoirstreetguy wrote:Bravo for being brave enough to tackle Triumph springs! I've done springs in the past, but I'd be too chicken to do that " pack them in a can" operation that the deep barrel entails. I'm watching this thread because I have purchased a Triumph A that I have yet to bring home, and it will need the treatment.

Jim
it is not as difficult as it might look... but I have to admit you need to have a strong grip to work it in.

ok, today I refinished all screw heads because an inbred hillbilly mangled the screw heads. sometimes I wish some people wouldn't be allowed to use tools... :roll:

so here's how it looks like before/after:
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and then you have to blue them like the original:
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note that this is not the same screw, but I refinished and blued them all.
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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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plugged and color matched with acrylic paint.
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I received a governor and an assortment of feed nuts and bars today.
the governor had an odd defect but it is now almost gone...
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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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Leo,
That is really nice work. Keep the restoration pictures coming!

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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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Ditto on what Steve said. ...And by the way, does everyone know that Leo is still a teenager? :shock:

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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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Congratulations, great work. I commend your attention to detail with the screw heads and awesome job with plugging the holes. Please keep the pictures coming.
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Re: Edison Triumph Model A restoration

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Hey Leo...
Did you "blue" the screws the old fashioned way by heating them up
and dunking them in engine oil?

or.. is there another way?

Btw..beautiful work on the "former" hole in the case!

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