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Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:10 am
by Lucius1958
fran604g wrote:
Valecnik wrote:Very nice Fran! What does the decal say on the Edison? Those are always a nice plus.
Thank you! This is the first machine for me to have any sales/distribution identification with it. I'm pretty excited!
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?

Bill

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:39 am
by Valecnik
phonogfp wrote:Fran,

You should show them where the other dealer decal is! ;)

George P.
Okay my curiosity is piqued. Please tell us about the other decal. I'm guessing the other end of the lid? I saw that once before. :monkey:

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:13 am
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:Fran,

You should show them where the other dealer decal is! ;)

George P.
That's a great idea, George! :D

(Please excuse the dust, I haven't gotten that far, yet :oops: )

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:31 pm
by phonogfp
Lucius1958 wrote:
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?

Bill
No, not in Reiss... Keep guessing. :)

Here's a hint: I owned this for over 35 years.

Here's the story: Fran's cabinet originally had a C-250 mechanism with a Duncan stop and a Long Play Attachment. I always wanted a C-250 in oak so for years I searched for a nice empty oak cabinet (I wanted to keep the mechanism with the Duncan stop and Long Play Attachment). Once in a while I'd find an oak C-19 with the later record shelves. but a C-250 mechanism in it would not be an historically accurate combination. Then around 2006 I finally found a nice oak C-19 in the earlier C-250-type cabinet. I carefully examined the mahogany and oak cabinets and found them to be identical, so I switched mechanisms and data plates.

The original finish on Fran's mahogany cabinet is so nice, I resisted selling it for years. I considered displaying both mahogany and oak models side-by-side, but I just don't have the space, so this nice mahogany cabinet with C-19 mechanism sat in my basement for the past 8 years. :? Kind of crazy. Then, about 6 years later I bought another C-250 in a so-so cabinet (I wanted the records). I have given Fran the option of switching out his C-19 mechanism/data plate for this C-250 mechanism/data plate, and he's thinking about it.

At one point, I had 5 C-250s/C-19 here! Unfortunately, the cabinets are often hammered on them. Here's what I mean:
junkcab.jpg
By the way, if anyone needs cabinet parts for an oak C-250/C-19, I may be able to help!

In any event, I'm pleased that Fran wound up with this cabinet (regardless of which mechanism he chooses) and I hope he enjoys it for at least as many years as I did! :)

George P.

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:11 pm
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:
Lucius1958 wrote:
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?

Bill
No, not in Reiss... Keep guessing. :)

Here's a hint: I owned this for over 35 years.

Here's the story: Fran's cabinet originally had a C-250 mechanism with a Duncan stop and a Long Play Attachment. I always wanted a C-250 in oak so for years I searched for a nice empty oak cabinet (I wanted to keep the mechanism with the Duncan stop and Long Play Attachment). Once in a while I'd find an oak C-19 with the later record shelves. but a C-250 mechanism in it would not be an historically accurate combination. Then around 2006 I finally found a nice oak C-19 in the earlier C-250-type cabinet. I carefully examined the mahogany and oak cabinets and found them to be identical, so I switched mechanisms and data plates.

The original finish on Fran's mahogany cabinet is so nice, I resisted selling it for years. I considered displaying both mahogany and oak models side-by-side, but I just don't have the space, so this nice mahogany cabinet with C-19 mechanism sat in my basement for the past 8 years. :? Kind of crazy. Then, about 6 years later I bought another C-250 in a so-so cabinet (I wanted the records). I have given Fran the option of switching out his C-19 mechanism/data plate for this C-250 mechanism/data plate, and he's thinking about it.

At one point, I had 5 C-250s/C-19 here! Unfortunately, the cabinets are often hammered on them. Here's what I mean:
junkcab.jpg
By the way, if anyone needs cabinet parts for an oak C-250/C-19, I may be able to help!

In any event, I'm pleased that Fran wound up with this cabinet (regardless of which mechanism he chooses) and I hope he enjoys it for at least as many years as I did! :)

George P.
Thanks George for the history! I feel fortunate to be the next person to enjoy something with such distinguished lineage (should I give Bill another hint, like; page 221?. 8-) )

As for enjoying it for 35 years...I'll be happy to try to make it to 91, but I'm not suggesting anyone bets on it! :roll:

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:06 pm
by phonogfp
Has anyone encountered another machine with a second dealer decal behind the grill? This is the only one I've seen. :)

George P.

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:34 am
by Lucius1958
fran604g wrote:
phonogfp wrote:
Lucius1958 wrote:
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?

Bill
No, not in Reiss... Keep guessing. :)

Here's a hint: I owned this for over 35 years.

Here's the story: Fran's cabinet originally had a C-250 mechanism with a Duncan stop and a Long Play Attachment. I always wanted a C-250 in oak so for years I searched for a nice empty oak cabinet (I wanted to keep the mechanism with the Duncan stop and Long Play Attachment). Once in a while I'd find an oak C-19 with the later record shelves. but a C-250 mechanism in it would not be an historically accurate combination. Then around 2006 I finally found a nice oak C-19 in the earlier C-250-type cabinet. I carefully examined the mahogany and oak cabinets and found them to be identical, so I switched mechanisms and data plates.

The original finish on Fran's mahogany cabinet is so nice, I resisted selling it for years. I considered displaying both mahogany and oak models side-by-side, but I just don't have the space, so this nice mahogany cabinet with C-19 mechanism sat in my basement for the past 8 years. :? Kind of crazy. Then, about 6 years later I bought another C-250 in a so-so cabinet (I wanted the records). I have given Fran the option of switching out his C-19 mechanism/data plate for this C-250 mechanism/data plate, and he's thinking about it.

At one point, I had 5 C-250s/C-19 here! Unfortunately, the cabinets are often hammered on them. Here's what I mean:
junkcab.jpg
By the way, if anyone needs cabinet parts for an oak C-250/C-19, I may be able to help!

In any event, I'm pleased that Fran wound up with this cabinet (regardless of which mechanism he chooses) and I hope he enjoys it for at least as many years as I did! :)

George P.
Thanks George for the history! I feel fortunate to be the next person to enjoy something with such distinguished lineage (should I give Bill another hint, like; page 221?. 8-) )

As for enjoying it for 35 years...I'll be happy to try to make it to 91, but I'm not suggesting anyone bets on it! :roll:
Ah, yes: somehow that slipped by me as I was looking… :oops:

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:01 am
by Edisone
Looking at the December 19, 1918 EVENING NEWS of North Tonawanda, I see that Mr.Curt Andrus had multiple ads - at least 5 for Edison, 2 Victor, and 1 for a player piano. He must have gotten good rates. His store is still standing (90 Webster St), as is his house (408 Wheatfield St - a modest place) ....

I have a C-250 (or is it a c-19? Must check again) with an extra decal under the horn - it's from UTLEY, Buffalo NY. Maybe it was a Buffalo custom, I assume through W.D.Andrews or Neal Clark & Neal (jobbers) on Main St. Speaking of which - there's a photo in circulation showing the demonstration booths of Neal Clark & Neal, and a very rare Edison Amberola IV is in the shot. I wonder if it has survived, and is still lurking in a Buffalo attic .....

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:30 am
by phonogfp
Edisone wrote:Looking at the December 19, 1918 EVENING NEWS of North Tonawanda, I see that Mr.Curt Andrus had multiple ads - at least 5 for Edison, 2 Victor, and 1 for a player piano. He must have gotten good rates. His store is still standing (90 Webster St), as is his house (408 Wheatfield St - a modest place) ....

I have a C-250 (or is it a c-19? Must check again) with an extra decal under the horn - it's from UTLEY, Buffalo NY. Maybe it was a Buffalo custom, I assume through W.D.Andrews or Neal Clark & Neal (jobbers) on Main St. Speaking of which - there's a photo in circulation showing the demonstration booths of Neal Clark & Neal, and a very rare Edison Amberola IV is in the shot. I wonder if it has survived, and is still lurking in a Buffalo attic .....
How interesting that the store is still standing (as well as the Andrus home). Fran needs a photo of it! :)

I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the Utley decal in your Edison C... "Chippendale."

Thanks for posting! :)

George P.

Re: My Edison DD C-19

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:55 am
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:
Edisone wrote:Looking at the December 19, 1918 EVENING NEWS of North Tonawanda, I see that Mr.Curt Andrus had multiple ads - at least 5 for Edison, 2 Victor, and 1 for a player piano. He must have gotten good rates. His store is still standing (90 Webster St), as is his house (408 Wheatfield St - a modest place) ....

I have a C-250 (or is it a c-19? Must check again) with an extra decal under the horn - it's from UTLEY, Buffalo NY. Maybe it was a Buffalo custom, I assume through W.D.Andrews or Neal Clark & Neal (jobbers) on Main St. Speaking of which - there's a photo in circulation showing the demonstration booths of Neal Clark & Neal, and a very rare Edison Amberola IV is in the shot. I wonder if it has survived, and is still lurking in a Buffalo attic .....
How interesting that the store is still standing (as well as the Andrus home). Fran needs a photo of it! :)

I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the Utley decal in your Edison C... "Chippendale."

Thanks for posting! :)

George P.
That is very interesting! Thanks, Edisone, I'll have to see if I can find an archive of the newspaper and copy it. I've sifted through this website, http://www.fultonhistory.com/fulton.html many times for family history and had some success finding archived news items. I'll have to give it a try! Too bad I don't have the name of the dealer that sold my wife's great-grandparents the Home B that we have. :(

Fran