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Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:10 am
by Lucius1958
fran604g wrote:Valecnik wrote:Very nice Fran! What does the decal say on the Edison? Those are always a nice plus.
Thank you! This is the first machine for me to have any sales/distribution identification with it. I'm pretty excited!
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?
Bill
Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 3:39 am
by Valecnik
phonogfp wrote:Fran,
You should show them where the
other dealer decal is!
George P.
Okay my curiosity is piqued. Please tell us about the other decal. I'm guessing the other end of the lid? I saw that once before.

Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:13 am
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:Fran,
You should show them where the
other dealer decal is!
George P.
That's a great idea, George!
(Please excuse the dust, I haven't gotten that far, yet

)
Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:31 pm
by phonogfp
Lucius1958 wrote:
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?
Bill
No, not in Reiss... Keep guessing.
Here's a hint: I owned this for over 35 years.
Here's the story: Fran's cabinet originally had a C-250 mechanism with a Duncan stop and a Long Play Attachment. I always wanted a C-250 in oak so for years I searched for a nice empty oak cabinet (I wanted to keep the mechanism with the Duncan stop and Long Play Attachment). Once in a while I'd find an oak C-19 with the later record shelves. but a C-250 mechanism in it would not be an historically accurate combination. Then around 2006 I finally found a nice oak C-19 in the earlier C-250-type cabinet. I carefully examined the mahogany and oak cabinets and found them to be identical, so I switched mechanisms and data plates.
The original finish on Fran's mahogany cabinet is so nice, I resisted selling it for years. I considered displaying both mahogany and oak models side-by-side, but I just don't have the space, so this nice mahogany cabinet with C-19 mechanism sat in my basement for the past 8 years.

Kind of crazy. Then, about 6 years later I bought another C-250 in a so-so cabinet (I wanted the records). I have given Fran the option of switching out his C-19 mechanism/data plate for this C-250 mechanism/data plate, and he's thinking about it.
At one point, I had 5 C-250s/C-19 here! Unfortunately, the cabinets are often hammered on them. Here's what I mean:
By the way, if anyone needs cabinet parts for an oak C-250/C-19, I may be able to help!
In any event, I'm pleased that Fran wound up with this cabinet (regardless of which mechanism he chooses) and I hope he enjoys it for at least as many years as I did!
George P.
Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:11 pm
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:Lucius1958 wrote:
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?
Bill
No, not in Reiss... Keep guessing.
Here's a hint: I owned this for over 35 years.
Here's the story: Fran's cabinet originally had a C-250 mechanism with a Duncan stop and a Long Play Attachment. I always wanted a C-250 in oak so for years I searched for a nice empty oak cabinet (I wanted to keep the mechanism with the Duncan stop and Long Play Attachment). Once in a while I'd find an oak C-19 with the later record shelves. but a C-250 mechanism in it would not be an historically accurate combination. Then around 2006 I finally found a nice oak C-19 in the earlier C-250-type cabinet. I carefully examined the mahogany and oak cabinets and found them to be identical, so I switched mechanisms and data plates.
The original finish on Fran's mahogany cabinet is so nice, I resisted selling it for years. I considered displaying both mahogany and oak models side-by-side, but I just don't have the space, so this nice mahogany cabinet with C-19 mechanism sat in my basement for the past 8 years.

Kind of crazy. Then, about 6 years later I bought another C-250 in a so-so cabinet (I wanted the records). I have given Fran the option of switching out his C-19 mechanism/data plate for this C-250 mechanism/data plate, and he's thinking about it.
At one point, I had 5 C-250s/C-19 here! Unfortunately, the cabinets are often hammered on them. Here's what I mean:
junkcab.jpg
By the way, if anyone needs cabinet parts for an oak C-250/C-19, I may be able to help!
In any event, I'm pleased that Fran wound up with this cabinet (regardless of which mechanism he chooses) and I hope he enjoys it for at least as many years as I did!
George P.
Thanks George for the history! I feel fortunate to be the next person to enjoy something with such distinguished lineage (should I give Bill another hint, like; page 221?.

)
As for enjoying it for 35 years...I'll be happy to try to make it to 91, but I'm not suggesting anyone bets on it!

Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:06 pm
by phonogfp
Has anyone encountered another machine with a second dealer decal behind the grill? This is the only one I've seen.
George P.
Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:34 am
by Lucius1958
fran604g wrote:phonogfp wrote:Lucius1958 wrote:
I'd swear I've seen that decal before - perhaps in Reiss?
Bill
No, not in Reiss... Keep guessing.
Here's a hint: I owned this for over 35 years.
Here's the story: Fran's cabinet originally had a C-250 mechanism with a Duncan stop and a Long Play Attachment. I always wanted a C-250 in oak so for years I searched for a nice empty oak cabinet (I wanted to keep the mechanism with the Duncan stop and Long Play Attachment). Once in a while I'd find an oak C-19 with the later record shelves. but a C-250 mechanism in it would not be an historically accurate combination. Then around 2006 I finally found a nice oak C-19 in the earlier C-250-type cabinet. I carefully examined the mahogany and oak cabinets and found them to be identical, so I switched mechanisms and data plates.
The original finish on Fran's mahogany cabinet is so nice, I resisted selling it for years. I considered displaying both mahogany and oak models side-by-side, but I just don't have the space, so this nice mahogany cabinet with C-19 mechanism sat in my basement for the past 8 years.

Kind of crazy. Then, about 6 years later I bought another C-250 in a so-so cabinet (I wanted the records). I have given Fran the option of switching out his C-19 mechanism/data plate for this C-250 mechanism/data plate, and he's thinking about it.
At one point, I had 5 C-250s/C-19 here! Unfortunately, the cabinets are often hammered on them. Here's what I mean:
junkcab.jpg
By the way, if anyone needs cabinet parts for an oak C-250/C-19, I may be able to help!
In any event, I'm pleased that Fran wound up with this cabinet (regardless of which mechanism he chooses) and I hope he enjoys it for at least as many years as I did!
George P.
Thanks George for the history! I feel fortunate to be the next person to enjoy something with such distinguished lineage (should I give Bill another hint, like; page 221?.

)
As for enjoying it for 35 years...I'll be happy to try to make it to 91, but I'm not suggesting anyone bets on it!

Ah, yes: somehow that slipped by me as I was looking…

Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:01 am
by Edisone
Looking at the December 19, 1918 EVENING NEWS of North Tonawanda, I see that Mr.Curt Andrus had multiple ads - at least 5 for Edison, 2 Victor, and 1 for a player piano. He must have gotten good rates. His store is still standing (90 Webster St), as is his house (408 Wheatfield St - a modest place) ....
I have a C-250 (or is it a c-19? Must check again) with an extra decal under the horn - it's from UTLEY, Buffalo NY. Maybe it was a Buffalo custom, I assume through W.D.Andrews or Neal Clark & Neal (jobbers) on Main St. Speaking of which - there's a photo in circulation showing the demonstration booths of Neal Clark & Neal, and a very rare Edison Amberola IV is in the shot. I wonder if it has survived, and is still lurking in a Buffalo attic .....
Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:30 am
by phonogfp
Edisone wrote:Looking at the December 19, 1918 EVENING NEWS of North Tonawanda, I see that Mr.Curt Andrus had multiple ads - at least 5 for Edison, 2 Victor, and 1 for a player piano. He must have gotten good rates. His store is still standing (90 Webster St), as is his house (408 Wheatfield St - a modest place) ....
I have a C-250 (or is it a c-19? Must check again) with an extra decal under the horn - it's from UTLEY, Buffalo NY. Maybe it was a Buffalo custom, I assume through W.D.Andrews or Neal Clark & Neal (jobbers) on Main St. Speaking of which - there's a photo in circulation showing the demonstration booths of Neal Clark & Neal, and a very rare Edison Amberola IV is in the shot. I wonder if it has survived, and is still lurking in a Buffalo attic .....
How interesting that the store is still standing (as well as the Andrus home). Fran needs a photo of it!
I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the Utley decal in your Edison C... "Chippendale."
Thanks for posting!
George P.
Re: My Edison DD C-19
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:55 am
by fran604g
phonogfp wrote:Edisone wrote:Looking at the December 19, 1918 EVENING NEWS of North Tonawanda, I see that Mr.Curt Andrus had multiple ads - at least 5 for Edison, 2 Victor, and 1 for a player piano. He must have gotten good rates. His store is still standing (90 Webster St), as is his house (408 Wheatfield St - a modest place) ....
I have a C-250 (or is it a c-19? Must check again) with an extra decal under the horn - it's from UTLEY, Buffalo NY. Maybe it was a Buffalo custom, I assume through W.D.Andrews or Neal Clark & Neal (jobbers) on Main St. Speaking of which - there's a photo in circulation showing the demonstration booths of Neal Clark & Neal, and a very rare Edison Amberola IV is in the shot. I wonder if it has survived, and is still lurking in a Buffalo attic .....
How interesting that the store is still standing (as well as the Andrus home). Fran needs a photo of it!
I'd be interested in seeing a photo of the Utley decal in your Edison C... "Chippendale."
Thanks for posting!
George P.
That is very interesting! Thanks, Edisone, I'll have to see if I can find an archive of the newspaper and copy it. I've sifted through this website,
http://www.fultonhistory.com/fulton.html many times for family history and had some success finding archived news items. I'll have to give it a try! Too bad I don't have the name of the dealer that sold my wife's great-grandparents the Home B that we have.
Fran