Advice needed on HMV 32 motor

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Adding oil to a spring barrel is not only unnecessary but foolhardy ! It will cause the springs to stick together and instead of unwinding slide over each coil until it jumps !

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, but Steve is correct, replace both springs.

As far as grease goes, a good industrial grade heavy duty grease will do. What you've described is probably fine. I've never added oil to a spring barrel when replacing springs, I personally don't think it's necessary.

Sean

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I have to disagree with Steve on this , I have never replaced both springs on a double spring motor unless the second spring shows signs of damage such as crack starting , I have replaced several hundreds of springs since 1979 and only on two occasions has the second spring broken , I think Steve must have been unlucky !

Now I´m looking to buy a new spring and probably reuse the one that is´nt broken, after a good cleaning and greasing

I wouldn't do that, if I was you! It's a slightly false economy to buy just the one spring and go through all that effort to refit the one unbroken old spring together with it. In my admittedly limited experience in these matters I've found that doing this causes the old spring to break very soon afterwards! I would therefore advise buying TWO new springs whenever you are tackling a double-spring motor and one spring is already broken. It appears the strength of the new spring overwhelms the existing one causing a similar breakage to the earlier replaced spring?

[Scott]

Well thanks for the input and wish me luck! I'm sure for the most part of this forum replacing a couple of springs in a 32 motor is a project that sounds almost boring, but when you do it for the first time...

Anyways here's a pic of the Lumiere after I finished fixing it *it was a total wreck* maybe some of you remember the thread where I was pretty unhappy about having bought it from a Dutch dealer who described it as in "over all good condition" (it had been stored in a damp cellar for 25 years, fungus and all the wood coming apart). Anyway NOW it is in "over all good condition" and what s more, it sounds great!

Wow! Beautiful piece. Well done.

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Sure I can do that, as soon as I get the springs and can put them back in the motor I'll get it running and make a video! Although I find the sound on the videos is often poor in comoparison to IRL! Gives you an idea though!

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What I found at the meeting of the springs - the dog again!

I feel a bit uncertain about whether to reuse the spring that's ok or not, maybe I will since the big trouble isn't really changing the springs but the whole cleaning process of the motor as far as I see it now that I've come halfway.