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Try checking the friction leather again, making sure it's centered while running and no part of it is riding on the outer rim of the friction disc. I had a speed problem once with this.
Bob

Bob S wrote: I believe the culprit must be the springs, since the machine was adjusted just fine before I replaced them. I got them at the show in Wayne NJ on Sunday - when I told the gentleman which machine I have, he gave me these springs. They certainly look the same as the ones that I replaced.

The flange is moving freely up and down the shaft, so I don't think that's the problem.

The governor pads have a good ¼ - ⅜" left to them.



Bob

Did the replacement springs have a flare at the ends? That might make a difference…

As for the flange: the fixed flange should have a separate screw that anchors it to the shaft. If you loosen that, you can move the assembly closer to the friction pads.

Bill

"Did the replacement springs have a flare at the ends? That might make a difference…

As for the flange: the fixed flange should have a separate screw that anchors it to the shaft. If you loosen that, you can move the assembly closer to the friction pads.

Bill"

Bill probably said it better than I could have. The set screw when loosened should allow you to move the leather fiction pad (on its yoke) closer or farther from the disc. This should allow you to fix the problem. You may require an adjustment of both the friction pad (leather) and the position of the governor shaft to be able to adjust the speed control accurately. From your picture, it looks like you have a slightly later version of the V than I have. The V that I have has the same motor as my VTLA-2 springs in one barrel and one spring in another. I hope you are able to get this fixed, I know how frustrating these kind of fine adjustments can be!

Matt

Bill,

Now that you mention it, the old springs had a tiny bend at each end, while the replacements were completely straight. I just assumed that the old ones were bent from years of use - did I put in the wrong ones, or was I supposed to bend them myself?

Matt,

I finally figured out how to remove the flange - that made it easier to get to the set screw that holds the speed control arm to the the doo-hickey that holds the friction leathers. That screw is now in as far as it will go - otherwise, the speed control arm hangs down so low that the speed control mechanism won't even reach it.

I am pretty mechanically inclined (I've rebuilt Model T engines), but this has really got me stumped and frustrated!

Thanks all!

Bob

Bob S wrote:Bill,

Now that you mention it, the old springs had a tiny bend at each end, while the replacements were completely straight. I just assumed that the old ones were bent from years of use - did I put in the wrong ones, or was I supposed to bend them myself?




Bob

Since the Victor flanges are cylindrical, the bend in the springs is meant to bow the springs out slightly when at rest: that makes it easier for the weights to move out when spinning (it also may help move the flange closer to the friction leathers as well).

I would recommend getting another set of springs with the proper flare, and see how that goes - as well as fiddling with the position of the governor on its shaft.

Bill

Bill,

Will do and report back -

Bob

Well, 2 ½ years later, I figured I'd report back with my results....

It seems that both of the friction leathers were not contacting the brass wheel on the governor. The yoke with the friction leathers was getting hung up on the set screw that holds the speed control rod onto the bracket....a simple adjustment was all that was needed.


Thanks to all of you for your help!

Bob S

Congratulations and Happy Thanksgiving!

Thank you and likewise to you!