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Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:20 pm
by Henry
Well, I consider something "pricey" when it used to cost c.$3 each and is now $11.95, but I guess that's the German in me coming out! And how I wish Coleman mantles would work on the Aladdins, since the Colemans cost a lot less. Even the mantles for the Humphrey propane gas lights are inexpensive by comparison. At least my 1950 Servel propane refrigerator doesn't use mantles!
Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:42 pm
by gramophone78
Henry wrote:Well, I consider something "pricey" when it used to cost c.$3 each and is now $11.95, but I guess that's the German in me coming out! And how I wish Coleman mantles would work on the Aladdins, since the Colemans cost a lot less. Even the mantles for the Humphrey propane gas lights are inexpensive by comparison. At least my 1950 Servel propane refrigerator doesn't use mantles!

. Some of my Aladdin mantles have a 49 cent tag on them. I was lucky and found some NOS years ago. Also, the hanger changed on the early models. So, when I have to change a mantle, I carefully remove (needle nose pliers) the cone and place it on the old hanger. Never touching the cone. Naturally, this is done pre-burn....

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Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:48 pm
by gramophone78
flashpanblue wrote:Well I thought that I would jump on the lamp band wagon and post a couple pictures of mine.
Pete
Pete, your one lamp looks like a #11. I have a owners manual. If you ever want scans....just let me know.
Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:05 am
by Valecnik
Well I guess there's something about non-electric lighting that that many phono collectors have in common. Lot's of nice pictures of well displayed, (and used) Aladdins and other oil lamps here.
Below is a picture of an Aladdin I've had for years and use regularly in our living room.
Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:10 am
by Valecnik
flashpanblue wrote:Well I thought that I would jump on the lamp band wagon and post a couple pictures of mine.
Pete
Pete, what's the first one you pictured? That's especially beautiful. Is that a Rayo?
gramophone78 wrote:Nice Bruce. My Great Grandfather was the Aladdin lamp Co. distributor for the Province of Manitoba. This is his #6 that has been handed down to me. Along with the manual and copper wall holder. Every lamp came with these. The center space in the holder was for matches.
Aladdin #6.JPG
Aladdin #6 Owners Manual (2).jpg
Aladdin Match,Generator,Wick Cleaner Wall Holder (2).jpg
I could do with an extra wall holder. Seems I'm always looking for the wick cleaner. Interesting that space for an extra generator was also provided for. You need some matches to put in there.
You no. 6 looks like new btw.
Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:08 am
by Henry
gramophone78 wrote:Henry wrote:Well, I consider something "pricey" when it used to cost c.$3 each and is now $11.95, but I guess that's the German in me coming out! And how I wish Coleman mantles would work on the Aladdins, since the Colemans cost a lot less. Even the mantles for the Humphrey propane gas lights are inexpensive by comparison. At least my 1950 Servel propane refrigerator doesn't use mantles!

. Some of my Aladdin mantles have a 49 cent tag on them. I was lucky and found some NOS years ago. Also, the hanger changed on the early models. So, when I have to change a mantle, I carefully remove (needle nose pliers) the cone and place it on the old hanger. Never touching the cone. Naturally, this is done pre-burn....

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that I can relate to! Needle-nose pliers, eh? Mmm, maybe that would work on those big Humphrey mantles somehow....

Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:10 am
by larryh
Henry wrote:Well, I consider something "pricey" when it used to cost c.$3 each and is now $11.95, but I guess that's the German in me coming out! And how I wish Coleman mantles would work on the Aladdins, since the Colemans cost a lot less. Even the mantles for the Humphrey propane gas lights are inexpensive by comparison. At least my 1950 Servel propane refrigerator doesn't use mantles!
Henry I have had all kinds of servels over the years and most oil models made the past 60 years.. Currently I have been using a 1946 servel which after some adjusting and cleaning works like a charm. I was always fascinated by refrigerators that worked without electrical power. I remember when I first started to buy kerosene in the late 50s it cost 13 cents a gallon. Now is is running 5.00 a gal here. I still use a pot burner oil heater to keep the kitchen and rear room warmer in winter but had to give in to propane for the main section of the home.
If anyone is interested in literature and photos of oil heaters, cooking stoves, refrigerators, incubators, pot burner home heaters, (Siegler, Duo Therm, Coleman, ect.) I have a yahoo group devoted to them, lots of information.
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Ker ... ector/info
Larry
Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:24 am
by estott
Curt A wrote:"The special mantles (woven fabric suspended from a wire frame, over a circular wick) are pricey..."
Those special mantles are made of silk... burn them with a match before lighting to make them turn ash like and very fragile...
It's more complex than that. The mantels are already burnt to ash- when first woven they are quite large and look something like a lace stocking. They are then chemically treated and burnt, during which the ash shrinks to the size of the finished mantel. It is coated to preserve it, and the coating is what you burn off. Colman mantels are similar except that you burn the thing yourself & can watch it shrink.
Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:47 am
by flashpanblue
Hi Valecnik,
Yes my first Lamp does look very much like a Rayo but there are no identifying marks on it at all.
Hi Wayne,
My other lamp is a #11 Aladdin. Unfortunately the geared mechanism that raises and lowers the wick is missing. Do you know if this can be repaired?
Pete
Re: O/T New Aladdin circa 1928 in the music room
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 9:57 am
by fran604g
estott wrote:Curt A wrote:"The special mantles (woven fabric suspended from a wire frame, over a circular wick) are pricey..."
Those special mantles are made of silk... burn them with a match before lighting to make them turn ash like and very fragile...
It's more complex than that.
The mantels are already burnt to ash- when first woven they are quite large and look something like a lace stocking. They are then chemically treated and burnt, during which the ash shrinks to the size of the finished mantel. It is coated to preserve it, and the coating is what you burn off. Colman mantels are similar except that you burn the thing yourself & can watch it shrink.
Very interesting, I didn't know this!
Thanks for the knowledge!
Fran