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I think this closeup of the case shows where the banner decal was.

Rich Gordon

rgordon939 wrote:I think this closeup of the case shows where the banner decal was.

Rich Gordon

Banner decal? I'm not seeing that.

If the owner will share the serial number, the question of decal type should be clarified.

George P.

It has had another machine put in it so serial number will not help. I think someone tried terribly to refinish the case. I don't see a banner decal, but for sure the Edison decal shadow?

In this instance since the mahogany case needs to be refinished you should decide what era B mechanism will be in it. Then have George P. look up the serial number so you can put the correct decal on the case when it's refinished. Just my thoughts.

Best Regards, Larry

Phonolair wrote:In this instance since the mahogany case needs to be refinished you should decide what era B mechanism will be in it. Then have George P. look up the serial number so you can put the correct decal on the case when it's refinished. Just my thoughts.

Best Regards, Larry

I was just thinking about that very thing. A banner decal with a B machine?

Looking at the machine closely, I see a Model D Home mechanism on a Model B case. There is no end gate so this could be a Model C converted to play 2/4 min. records. Or. it could be a Model D. The case looks like a Model B or it could have been used with a Model C or D as a transitional machine. I don't see any evidence of a banner decal, only the outline an Edison script decal.
Harvey Kravitz

Phonofreak wrote:Looking at the machine closely, I see a Model D Home mechanism on a Model B case. There is no end gate so this could be a Model C converted to play 2/4 min. records. Or. it could be a Model D. The case looks like a Model B or it could have been used with a Model C or D as a transitional machine. I don't see any evidence of a banner decal, only the outline an Edison script decal.
Harvey Kravitz

Agreed. It is far more likely that someone had stripped a late Home case, than that a banner case had been stripped, the decal replaced with a later one, and then stripped again.

Remember Occam's Razor...

Bill

When I start stripping, the answer will reveal itself.

Phonofreak wrote:Looking at the machine closely, I see a Model D Home mechanism on a Model B case. There is no end gate so this could be a Model C converted to play 2/4 min. records. Or. it could be a Model D. The case looks like a Model B or it could have been used with a Model C or D as a transitional machine. I don't see any evidence of a banner decal, only the outline an Edison script decal.
Harvey Kravitz

Agree about the decal, but as far as the machine is concerned, That D mechanism may have started out life in that cabinet. I don't believe that the lat style cabinet was produced in mahogany. I own a model E which was purchased new in NZ in 1911 which has one of the "model b style" mahogany cabinets. Pity that I haven't a lid.

Uncle Vanya wrote: That D mechanism may have started out life in that cabinet. I don't believe that the lat style cabinet was produced in mahogany. I own a model E which was purchased new in NZ in 1911 which has one of the "model b style" mahogany cabinets. Pity that I haven't a lid.

Yes the later style Home case, D and up was available in mahogany at least in the US market. As far as the NZ (New Zeeland assumed) market I don't have any knowledge of what may have been shipped there.

Best Regards, Larry