Edison Triumph With Repeater

[phonogfp]

How would it be to have a repeater mechanism on a Triumph E?If I remember correctly,Edison discontinued them by that time.edisonplayer

The D Repeater was offered in the 1910 catalog.

George P.

[Andersun]

Danny,
What a score! Almost two complete rare repeaters for the price of one plus a Concert nameplate! Very well done for being new to the phonograph world! That's what makes it fun and you are now a phonolifer!!

[danrclem]

Thanks to all.

In my last post the photo above the data plate shows a nickel plated arm. Did this arm come on a variant of the D repeater? Could this whole setup be a prototype? Would there be any purpose in changing the data plate?

I'll be the first to admit that I know next to nothing about these machines and is why I'm asking these questions.

If I have time this weekend I'm going to get it going and see if the repeater works.

Danny

[phonogfp]

In my last post the photo above the data plate shows a nickel plated arm. Did this arm come on a variant of the D repeater?

I'm not aware of any variants of the D Repeater other than the single known type.

Could this whole setup be a prototype?

This is every collector's dream. I wish it were so, but there's nothing here to suggest that. The presence of known Weber parts and the dataplate substitution make it far more likely that someone was simply putting parts together. However, don't get the wrong idea; those parts are valuable.

Would there be any purpose in changing the data plate?

There must have been some aim in the mind of whoever did it. We can only surmise.

During the latter period of Edison external-horn machine production (roughly 1907-1913), the factory might very occasionally install a dataplate marked "Triumph" on a "Home," or some similar mistake. But when these anomalies surface on unmolested machines, the serial number has always been within the proper range for the model and time period. This is not the case with your machine. The substitution may have occurred 60 years ago (yes, there WERE phonograph collectors in the 1950s - the lucky stiffs), but your Triumph most certainly didn't leave the factory with that dataplate. I don't often invoke absolutes, but this is one instance where I feel perfectly safe in doing so.

I'll be the first to admit that I know next to nothing about these machines and is why I'm asking these questions.

We were all in the same situation at one time. There's no shame in that, and asking questions is one way to increase your knowledge. You have made an excellent start in what may become a lifelong addiction - - Congratulations!

George P.

[danrclem]

Thanks for your comments Andersun and George.

The reason I thought maybe prototype is because the experts (you guys) haven't seen any exact duplicates of the parts on it except for maybe the Weber parts.

Unfortunately I have to work tomorrow and I'll be so busy Sunday that I probably won't get to work on the Triumph. I may have to go out of town but if I don't I'll at least clean up on it some. I really want to get the repeater working. I don't know zilch about phonographs but I have had a lifetime of experience with mechanical devices and I think the repeater will work very well but only time will tell.

For the time being I plan on getting a reproduction horn but I may try to hold out for an original crank. A ¼" ratchet extension fits on there very well and I can use a ratchet and another socket to turn it. Not real cool but it works.

Danny

[kendphono]

I just had time to follow this thread. I have a lot of experience with repeaters. I have exactly the same repeater. I have had it on the shelf for years and never had time to do anything with it. I believe it is a very early repeater and was intended for a Class M. Note the pictures. There is one of the shafts for a pulley still there. Also, there is the adjustment screw for the belt tension on a Class M. George can provide the history from the serial number on the plate. I am curious to see what he says. I don't believe this was done by a home hobbyist. The repeater works quite well. See the pics.
Waiting to see comments.

Ken Danckaert

[kendphono]

The rest of the pics.

Ken

[danrclem]

Ken, you've made my day!!!

Would you tell me what is on the other side of this thumb screw.

Thanks, Danny


http://forum.talkingmachine.info/downlo ... =46899&t=1

[kendphono]

Hi Danny,

Your pictures showed a loose part. That is what the thumb screw goes into. The purpose of that little "L" piece is to hold the carriage down while the trip lever above is reset. Here is a picture.

Ken

[danrclem]

That's the mystery part that I couldn't figure out. That's awesome. I'll have a couple extra thumb screws left over but I'm sure I'll figure them out. With the help of you guys that is.

I'd love to stay home and work on it today but I have to go to work in a few minutes. Bummer.