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Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:38 am
by winsleydale
phonogfp wrote:
winsleydale wrote:Is that little thing real? Are those brown wax discs?? WHY DOES NOBODY TELL ME THESE THINGS
...But they do - - and much, much more:

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... ire#p91754

:)

George P.
I know I should probably already have at least some of those... but alas, all my money goes to the machines and the records! Such is the life of a college student (because priorities, lol)

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:15 am
by phonogfp
winsleydale wrote: I know I should probably already have at least some of those... but alas, all my money goes to the machines and the records! Such is the life of a college student (because priorities, lol)
Well, it IS Christmastime...! :)

Philosophically, it's curious that you evidently recognize the value of education as far as spending funds on tuition now, even though you could be out working and earning money rather than spending it on tuition. You recognize that the funds spent on your education are an investment. Depending upon your major, this should prove wise. (I earned more in 6 months of retirement than my entire undergraduate and graduate studies cost!) :)

The same is true of any other endeavor involving the expenditure of funds. If you educate yourself first, then you will be equipped to spend (further invest) wisely. Many of us on this forum have sad stories of what our our lack of knowledge cost us before we knew better... :oops:

In January 1973 (I was a college freshman) I bought Frow's first book on Edison Cylinder Phonographs. I immediately discovered that the phonograph I had left in Pennsylvania for $175 was an Amberola 1B (full of records). Six months later I read From Tinfoil To Stereo for the first time, and discovered that the machine I had traded for a Q Graphophone and a Standard X was an early Berliner Improved Gramophone. I soon added Gellatt's The Fabulous Phonograph to my little library, and learned more about the historical context of the machines in my collection 9and those I would soon encounter). These books were all we had at the time. If only all the books we have available today had been available back then!

As the bumper sticker says, "If You Think Education is Expensive, Try Ignorance." I can think of several opportunities in my collecting where the entire cost of every phonograph/record resource book I own would have been recouped if only I had been better informed at the time. You really don't want to encounter something like a Toy Graphophone in a shop or a sale priced at, say, $200 and wonder what it is, or if it's a good deal. Likewise, you don't want to sell such an item to someone who offers to double your money! :lol:

Conversely, there have been dozens and dozens of times when I've seen something in somebody's hand at Union, Wayne, or the other shows I've attended over the past 35 years. My heart has skipped a beat, and I've thought "Does he realize what that is?" Then he puts it down and walks away... At times like that, I'm thankful that some people DON'T value an education. Good for me, but bad for them.

My advice is to be as self-sufficient and as knowledgeable as possible. (Here endeth the sermon...!) :)

George P.

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:20 am
by winsleydale
Point taken. I *have* been meaning to start getting resource books, so hopefully over the course of 2016 I will get a bunch of them (yours, Frow, etc.) Unfortunately, they are out of the question as Christmas gifts - my mother bought me a 4m cylinder recorder from Jerry B. and said 'There, now you're set for your birthday and Christmas.' A worthy sacrifice.

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:34 am
by phonogfp
Four-minute Recorders don't grow on trees. There are times when you must grab an elusive item, because another opportunity may not ever occur. Congratulations! :)

George P.

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:43 am
by winsleydale
Thanks! My other goal for '16 besides information is going to be honing my recording skills.

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:57 pm
by FloridaClay
My first phonograph was an Amberola 50 that caught my eye in an antique store. Would that I had taken the time to educate myself before taking the plunge. I likely paid too much for it and, because I did not then know what to look for, I did not pick up on it having missing spacers (that led to the later breaking of a misaligned crank) and that one of its two main springs was missing (barrel and all). I would know better now, thanks to good books and some incredibly kind and patient people here who answer my questions when I encounter something new to me.

Educating yourself if sometimes literally worth its weight in gold.

Clay

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:09 am
by AudioAntique
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to Everyone from NIPPER

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:40 am
by FloridaClay
And the same to you, and to all the Forum members and their families!

Clay

Re: Seasons Greetings!

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:47 pm
by epigramophone
A Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year from the other side of the pond.

Roger.