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JohnM wrote:

Pierce-Arrow wrote:The early version 10-50 on the left is original finish except for the top. The later version on the right is refinished.

What are the differences?

The differences are that the later version has the light moved from the bottom left to the center top of the inside cabinet, record loader shelve on right side, added drawer with partition, a metal bracket around the wood where the 78 rpm record drops in the record drawer. I believe that the record program carriers are different in width size and are rounded on the outside vs flat for the early version. The early record loader eyelet is square vs the later being a triangle. There are others such as bedplate screws and the mounting of the back panels.

it's great to see that someone respects these large machines and is not afraid to tackle a restoration on them. It truly looks gorgeous! I'll bet it plays great too. I think the first changer is a better changer than the second changer where they went to too much trouble to allow it to play a mixed stack of 10" and 12" records. also where can I get those cool dollies?

marcapra wrote:it's great to see that someone respects these large machines and is not afraid to tackle a restoration on them. It truly looks gorgeous! I'll bet it plays great too. I think the first changer is a better changer than the second changer where they went to too much trouble to allow it to play a mixed stack of 10" and 12" records. also where can I get those cool dollies?

I like to say thank you to all that have complemented on the 10-50's. If you never heard one in person, I suggest that you do.

Shepherd 9442 12" Tri Dolly - you can get these online or local ACE Hardware Store.

Those Tri Dollys are very useful. We had them under each leg of a grand piano, which is even heavier than a 10-50! Sure made moving that beast a lot easier, and without damaging the floors. The wheels (casters) on pianos are as useless as those on Victrolas; they are guaranteed wood floor killers.

Ohh, I love these large machines! The more complex, the better.

I suppose I'm an obsolete technology freak. One regret is selling a 10-50 when I moved to smaller digs. Still have a mint prewar Capehart and an early Panatrope changer.

It's a pleasure to see well restored, such fine machines that represented, albeit very briefly the acme of technical perfection and expense. That's what I try to achieve with my cars. You, Sir are the ultimate enthusiast combining historical appreciation with technical skill.

Panatropia wrote:Ohh, I love these large machines! The more complex, the better.

I suppose I'm an obsolete technology freak. One regret is selling a 10-50 when I moved to smaller digs. Still have a mint prewar Capehart and an early Panatrope changer.

It's a pleasure to see well restored, such fine machines that represented, albeit very briefly the acme of technical perfection and expense. That's what I try to achieve with my cars. You, Sir are the ultimate enthusiast combining historical appreciation with technical skill.

I have to concur with the above post. These two machines are fantastic and works of technological art. I would love to own one myself....if I only had the room.. . You should be very proud to own these wonderful specimens.

I'm still excited to see Gene's coin-op version with the viewing glass panel in the door.

Thank you so much for sharing these with all of us.

I remember seeing a Victor 10-50 cabinet in a local thrift store once.I knew what it was,but I'm sure no one else did.Sad! edisonplayer

Who did the excellent refinish job on the one machine?

JerryVan wrote:Who did the excellent refinish job on the one machine?

A friend of mine who has knowledge on wood finishes.

I guess I should say that I own a few record changers of a later age: early 40's. One of them is the 1941 Philco "Beam of Light" record changer and the other is the 1942 V-225 "Magic Brain" Victrola radio phonograph. It is well illustrated in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHIAa_J0Rqc


Marc.