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Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:38 pm
by colmike1
What a wonderful "rescue". With a lot of elbow grease and time, it should be a lovely machine. Congrats!
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 7:26 pm
by NEFaurora
Fran, A nice Rescue. Congrats. I like the Dual Reproducer holder as well.
Wasn't someone reproducing those Dual Reproducer holders awhile back? No?
Tony K.
Edison Collector/Restorer.
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:07 pm
by fran604g
Thank you, all!
Tony: I have seen mention in threads here of replicas having been produced by someone at some point, but couldn't speak to this from my own personal knowledge.
I now have a total of 3 gunmetal finish, cabinet-mounted, double holders, that appear to be essentially identical, and were presumably produced by the same manufacturer. If the Edison co. produced them, or contracted them to be supplied by another, I don't know.
The factory available LP conversion kits were provided with a single holder that would be mounted to the cabinet in the rear of the turntable compartment.
I've also seen a couple of motor plate mountable single holders, but I don't know if they were OEM, newer replicas, or modern fabrications.
Replicas could be easily produced in a simple metal shop, but I wouldn't know how to match the finish.
I'm also aware of at least one gold plated cabinet-mounted double holder.
Fran
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:15 pm
by need4art
Getting rid of the smell of mold is quite easy-get a spray can of spray shellac and spray it where ever you can. It will kill the smell very quickly. I use this method when ever I am restoring antique picture frames and furniture and is the method that the Library of Congress uses.
Abe
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:42 am
by marcapra
Yes, Abe is correct on that. I once had a moldy phonograph from the deep South. People gave all kinds of advice on how to kill the mold. There was spraying it with a bleach solution, which does kill mold; putting open cups of baking soda inside the machine; wiping it down with vinegar; putting the cabinet out in the sun for a couple of weeks, etc. I did all those things except putting it out in the sun (one rain storm would wreck the veneer for good!!!), but the odor remained to a degree until I painted the interior of the cabinet with shellac, after taking the mechanism and record dividers out as you did. Good luck on a fine machine! Do you have the LP reproducer? Marc.
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:52 am
by fran604g
marcapra wrote:Do you have the LP reproducer? Marc.
Marc, yes. You must have missed my earlier answer:
fran604g wrote:
It came with the appropriate LP reproducer and "Edisonic" reproducer (square-weight type).
Best,
Fran
I also have a
second gunmetal LP reproducer. I've been quietly acquiring accessories and records for over 2 years with the intent to expand my Diamond Disc Phonograph collection, both for my own entertainment enjoyment, and, more importantly (to me); to study them. I was going to use this other LP reproducer for a conversion to my very late C 19 to play LPs (as I've seen other folks do with their Chippendales, Hepplewhites, Sheratons, Schuberts and Beethovens). But now I won't be needing to do that because I have this 1-C; it's funny how quickly plans can change.
Among the other various accessories I have specifically included with my late C 19 is a nice "Jewel" adapter should I ever wish to play "lateral cut", or Pathé "vertical cut" records on it, too. And, of course, a gunmetal double reproducer holder for the attachments is mounted to the rear of the turntable compartment.
Of course, now I can use it with the 1-C if I choose...all historically appropriate.
Fran
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 2:54 pm
by marcapra
My Beethoven came with an NOS gold LP reproducer still in the bag and cradle and a gold Military Orophone adapter made by Orotone still in the box. It was missing the Edisonic reproducer unfortunately. Lateral records of the 20s and before never sounded better! I would like to see what those directions say under the adapter. Can you take a close up of those directions. I would like to see what it says about the Orthophonics.
Also, I'm fascinated in what G. Frow says about a fifth Long Play machine that came out in 1927, the Consolette. Edison records show slightly less than 200 were made at a retail price of $250, the same price as a 3-C LP console. That's more than the price of the later Beethoven! I have a theory that the Consolette LP model, which was the original name for the later Schubert, was actually the same cabinet as a Schubert. I know a collector in Calif. who recently bought a Schubert with the LP logo "The New Edison" instead of "The Edisonic" on it. Could the Schubert have been the fifth Long Play model complete with the new Edisonic horn and a long play kit installed?
Thanks, Marc.
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 5:00 pm
by fran604g
marcapra wrote: Also, I'm fascinated in what G. Frow says about a fifth Long Play machine that came out in 1927, the Consolette. Edison records show slightly less than 200 were made at a retail price of $250, the same price as a 3-C LP console. That's more than the price of the later Beethoven! I have a theory that the Consolette LP model, which was the original name for the later Schubert, was actually the same cabinet as a Schubert. I know a collector in Calif. who recently bought a Schubert with the LP logo "The New Edison" instead of "The Edisonic" on it. Could the Schubert have been the fifth Long Play model complete with the new Edisonic horn and a long play kit installed?
Thanks, Marc.
Hi Marc,
I think there is a definite connection between the
Consolette and the
Schubert.
I explored that very topic a while back in a post here
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =2&t=24980, and have continued to work on discovering just what the connection/implication was. I hope to one day find something concrete...
Fran
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:42 am
by fran604g
I don't think this picture really needs much of an explanation; other than my 1-C is finally complete.
My sincere thanks to the man whom supplied me with the necessary wood trim medallions for the doors (he knows who he is, and I'll leave it to him if wants to be publicly acknowledged).
I am grateful to him!
I managed to recreate the grille cloth myself, through photographic experimentation, and although the weave is a modern material, I'm happy with the colors of the pattern.
It took some effort to develop this replacement, and as it turned out, one cannot capture all of the different light patterns refracted from the original material weave, and then accurately reproduce those subtleties in shades of brown. I actually wound up with two different concept samples. The first one in which the square's inside pattern was much lighter than the surrounding border. And this second one: a reverse color scheme of the first, in which the inside square pattern is much darker than the border.
I suppose I could have used either, but I preferred the second iteration.
Anywhoo, I'm happy I was able to rescue this lost soul...
Re: My new-to-me Edison 1-C LP Console
Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:16 pm
by PeterF
That looks unbelievably good, Fran! Always nice to see machines that are seemingly too far gone to rescue be brought back to life.
Congrats!