Needle Type?

[gramophoneshane]

You know, I completely missed the same link you posted first

Those wave needles were available in gold, silver & copper colours. I was given a couple of each years ago, but goodness only knows what tin they're hiding in now lol.
Looking at the needle pictured on the site, it appears to be spelled Herold on the needle.

[Victor78]

It happens to the best/rest of us too, no worries.

Interesting, I found this article on the web during a search this morning.

[B.B.B]

Very interesting article!
Was there ever any shortage? I know I heard somewhere that the lack of steel during WW1 was one of the reasons they started making fiber/thorn needles & then found out that they were kind to the records aswell.

Here is a great site, with loads of tins (and phonographs & soundboxes & paraphernalia..)
http://www.grammofonmuseum.no/Stiftesker/HMV.htm
The site isn't the greatest design-wise, but well worth the effort.

Click on "Marshall" on the left menu.
There you find both wavy needles, the spear points (called Doppelton in German, translates to "doubletone")the Aeigir with a large "collar" & the spiral needle I mentioned earlier


If you want a few of those spirals for your display board, give me a shout. I'd be glad to contribute to such a nice project!

[Victor78]

Thanks for posting that link, very cool website (content wise) They even have a photo of the needle tin Shane posted, and another variation. I've never run into this site before, thank you again. I'm not into collecting the needle tins, yet, but there are some neat looking tins out there!

[Victor78]

Thanks to B.B.B., I now have 2 more types of needles to add. Three nice examples of the wire wound type, and another spade type, with ODEON stamped on the shank. Thank you again!

- Jim

[Neophone]

Jim,

Fantastic idea. I love it! John, here's what you are looking for I think....


Regards,
John

[B.B.B]

Thanks to B.B.B., I now have 2 more types of needles to add. Three nice examples of the wire wound type, and another spade type, with ODEON stamped on the shank. Thank you again!

- Jim

Those Odeon are fun, they are actuallt three sided, similar to a fiber needle in the middle, but ends in a "regular" needle point. The point (ta-da-dum ) of this design eludes me, but it's probably the same idea as for other spear/spade points, volume control. Maybe three different tones?

[Victor78]

Quick update on the "Needle Board". Thanks to B.B.B. and Neophone for their donations, they were greatly appreciated! I found a bunch of Aegir needles (One pictured below). They are extra loud and are the ones with the round disc mounted on them. Some of the ones I have are unused, and I think Im going to try one and see just 'how loud' it is compared to a loud tone. I still would like to find a Marschall wave needle and also an Aegir tin. I have made my 'road map' in Excel which will be displayed along with the board at our next meeting along with the credits for the donations. Thanks again fellas!

- Jim

Edit: One other interesting one I found is the Marschall-Nadeln Trompito. This one has a weird taper to it, it is also noted on the link earlier in this post from The Vintage Wireless and Gramophone Club of Western Australia. Does anyone know if that club is still going?

[gramophoneshane]

Jim,
The club is still going. I've been in contact with them & am finally about to pay my membership fees

That first tapered needle you posted is probably the loudest steel needle type I've ever used, followed by the collared Aegir.
Here's a few pictures of alternate brands that offered some of these needles. I've also included a different wave type needle tin, along with a couple of my own that you might come across.
Sorry the scans are in B&W. I once met a needle tin collector who gave me "photocopies" of many tins in his collection. Unfortunately this was in the pre-colour copy days
The last one is a little off topic being a sapphire needle, but it's an interesting design.

[WDC]

Some few more needle shapes:

From left to right:

1. Phonycord strong
2. Herold
3. Ondulette soft
4. Herold
5. Pegasus
6. Herold
7. Herold