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Your machine has two holes on the crank side. I suppose one of them could be for a brake/speed control rod, the other for the crank. I rather doubt that, but I would be out of line to claim that. Here's what I would do. I'd take the platter off. If you like, you could take a photo and show us that. If the Thorens is not the original motor, then it is more than likely there are extral holes on the top board for a different set of bolts to secure the motor to the top board. If there are, that will unequivocally answer your question. It won't answer the question if the original motor was a Thorens or not, but it would answer the question whether the your motor is original to the case or not.

The winding handle hole is so gross , and together with the side speed control hole I would say it is not the original motor

This evening i Will make the photo.. if the motor is not the original one, There is no problem.. the problem is if all The gramophone is a frankephone so With all different pieces from all different models.. I Hope is Not a frankephone.. someone know if the wood box is an original nirona?

The box has never n=been used with anything except the Nirona horn , so it is not a reused horn gramophone box , so I would say it is original to the Nirona horn