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Re: Model C winged reproducer dating... wierd s/n
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:07 am
by Rexophone
That makes me want to ask a similar question about a winged Model C reproducer I bought in a box full of British phonograph parts. It seems to have an unusually low serial number. I assumed that this reproducer is a model for the British market and that perhaps a different numbering system was used there??
Steve
Re: Model C winged reproducer dating... wierd s/n
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:36 pm
by clevelander
martinola wrote:The early model B reproducer shown would be appropriate for a 1902 UK/Commonwealth Edison machine. The "New Model" reproducer would have been after Edison and Edison-Bell parted ways in 1903. I wonder if these "EB Co." reproducers were made in New Jersey for export or were made in the UK either under license (or were under-the-table knock-offs)? I've got an early Squaretop Standard from the UK with a completely unmarked Automatic reproducer that looks very old. I'd be very curious to know if there are other Edison-Bell (export Edison) machines out there with similar reproducers. Very interesting thread!
Martin
Martin,
As I stated in my previous post, the only EB Co (Edison Bell Consolodated Phonograph Company) winged/sidearm reproducers I have come across before were stamped "New Model" on the tailweight.
This could indeed be an EB knockoff (they weren't too fussy) or the parts were imported and stamped until they produced their own castings.
It was around the date of this particular model of reproducer that the Edison/Bell & Tainter patents ran out and Edison bell could legitimately produce their own goods.
Regards,
Alistair.
Re: Model C winged reproducer dating... wierd s/n
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:24 pm
by martinola
Hi Alistair.
Thanks for that. My thought is that we're seeing a few of these reproducers that appeared in the twilight of the National Phonograph Company/Edison-Bell association - a period of a few months where these could still be Edison (US) made parts before E-B was forced to issue the "New Model" reproducers. I find it interesting to run across these vestiges of the rift between these two concerns.
Best Regards,
Martin