Decals for restoration
- hearsedriver
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Re: Decals for restoration
Im just glad we have both sources for these decals. Having used and compared both, I just prefer one over the other. Both guys make a fine product.
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tomb
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Re: Decals for restoration
I heard Eduardo orders his decals from a guy called Gregg cline that is why it takes longer to get them Tom Bhearsedriver wrote:I am a huge fan of Eduardo from Peru. I have used his and Gregs and find Eduardos to be superior in quality. The downside is the 4-5 week wait to receive them. Eduardos decals do not need to be sealed either due to the type of ink he uses. Just my opinion.
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tomb
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Re: Decals for restoration
speaking of decals I found a couple in my stock that are mirror images of the Edison decal that goes on the Home and Standard front case. Any ideas as to how to apply or why they are backwards, they look like good decals. Tom B
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Re: Decals for restoration
To go onto a glass case?tomb wrote:speaking of decals I found a couple in my stock that are mirror images of the Edison decal that goes on the Home and Standard front case. Any ideas as to how to apply or why they are backwards, they look like good decals. Tom B
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Re: Decals for restoration
Could they be varnish transfer decals?tomb wrote:speaking of decals I found a couple in my stock that are mirror images of the Edison decal that goes on the Home and Standard front case. Any ideas as to how to apply or why they are backwards, they look like good decals. Tom B
These were the type originally used: lay a fresh coat of varnish or shellac on the case; place the decal, paper and all, in the proper position and smooth it out; let the coat dry; then wet the paper and carefully peel it off. Put another coat of shellac or varnish over the decal to protect it.
I remember using at least one decal of this type before.
Bill
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tomb
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Re: Decals for restoration
Thanks Bill... I will give it a try. If it does not turn out I can always take it off since the case is stripped.. The decal is going on a home F case I am restoring when I get a little time to do it.. I think I have instructions somewhere on applying decals and it may have the way to put them on too. The decal looks like a good match for the original but it is hard to tell since it is backwards. Tom B
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EarlH
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Re: Decals for restoration
No, Eduardo does not do that. I've had him make many decals for me for radios, piano fallboards and also a few dealership decals for phonographs I've refinished, and his decals are very nice. He enlarges the artwork and makes all the corrections, and then shrinks it back down to the size it's supposed to be in order to keep all the detail. Which is pretty much how they were done originally. The color is great and I have had no problems with any of them. He has charged me a little more for the decals that I've had him make that he is only going to sell one copy of, but I can hardly complain about that. It's too bad that varnish transfer decals are no longer being made, but the work he has done for me has all been first class. I used to get decals from a place up in Minnesota, but after they changed hands the new owners got to the point where they wanted $50 for a piano fallboard decal and if it was something custom made (even if I had the colors separated and all the artwork ready) they wanted $225 for a single decal! Well, how many people are going to go for that? And they didn't always get the details right at all and would substitute stock alphabet styles for the original style and would not ask if that was ok.tomb wrote:I heard Eduardo orders his decals from a guy called Gregg cline that is why it takes longer to get them Tom Bhearsedriver wrote:I am a huge fan of Eduardo from Peru. I have used his and Gregs and find Eduardos to be superior in quality. The downside is the 4-5 week wait to receive them. Eduardos decals do not need to be sealed either due to the type of ink he uses. Just my opinion.
We are really lucky to have some choices here when it comes to this sort of thing, but hardly any of the decals from either of these two guys is over $25. so order one of each and use the one you think will suite your project the best. You'll feel much better about it in the end.
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[gandt]monarch
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Re: Decals for restoration
i second eduardo his decals are superb and anything he does not have he will make for you.love his horns too
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Re: Decals for restoration
Thanks for all of the support and kind comments from many forum members. I began making decals for phonograph restoration as a matter of necessity. What I needed simply didn't exist, or what was available was not acceptable to me. I did a good bit of research and came up with a method to create my own. I never intended to offer these for sale. It was simply to be for my own use. However, people saw what I had come up with and encouraged me to make more variety and to start selling them.
I do this as a hobbiest, It is not a lucrative financial endeavor . I enjoy the creative aspects as well as beings able to support this great hobby. The printers are expensive, and prone to problems. They are no longer made and can only be repaired in Japan by one company. It is very time intensive to create a decal. It is not just printing a bitmap image on decal paper... Most require extensive work in Photoshop as we'll as vector graphics for backgrounds and highlights. There are multiple layers created for each decal. Typically several hours invested in each one.
With regards to Edwardo's decals, I cannot speak to his quality as I have not inspected any of his in person. I imagine they are well made. They look to be on line. If you prefer his product, then obviously that is what you should,use. I am happy quality products are available to the collecting community regardless of the source. They are such an improvement over what was available when I began collecting.
For the forseeable future I will continue to offer my services to those who wish to use them. My website is http://www.phonodecal.com. I will also be happy to do custom decals as a one off if needed. My website will be updated in the near future with several additional decal I have completed.
Gregg Cline
I do this as a hobbiest, It is not a lucrative financial endeavor . I enjoy the creative aspects as well as beings able to support this great hobby. The printers are expensive, and prone to problems. They are no longer made and can only be repaired in Japan by one company. It is very time intensive to create a decal. It is not just printing a bitmap image on decal paper... Most require extensive work in Photoshop as we'll as vector graphics for backgrounds and highlights. There are multiple layers created for each decal. Typically several hours invested in each one.
With regards to Edwardo's decals, I cannot speak to his quality as I have not inspected any of his in person. I imagine they are well made. They look to be on line. If you prefer his product, then obviously that is what you should,use. I am happy quality products are available to the collecting community regardless of the source. They are such an improvement over what was available when I began collecting.
For the forseeable future I will continue to offer my services to those who wish to use them. My website is http://www.phonodecal.com. I will also be happy to do custom decals as a one off if needed. My website will be updated in the near future with several additional decal I have completed.
Gregg Cline
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Re: Decals for restoration
Gregg, Thanks for the insight. I really appreciate the hard work and time to put into each decal. For all the hours you put in, you would make an hourly wage less than minimum. This is a true labor of love, and a real asset to this great hobby.
Harvey Kravitz
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