Lid labels for the Edison.

[Curt A]

Lets make the dimensions absolutely clear... Is it (1) 4 ¾" Wide x 6" Tall OR (2) 6" Wide x 4 ¾" Tall?
Facing the label - Height (Tall) is up and down, following the curve of the lid - Width is left to right or side to side... just in case there is any question...

[Curt A]

The perspective of the pics are a little deceiving so it's hard to tell if it is wider than tall or the other way around. I used to have a Model D Standard with the label, but it was sold several years ago...

[martinola]

I think that you meant to say 4 ¾ inches Wide by 6 inches Tall. No??

For what it's worth, my Standard D (#673814) has a "Change of Reproducers" sticker that is 5 ⅞" wide (viewed straight on reading left to right) and is 4 ⅞" tall (viewed straight on reading top to bottom). Mine reads "Form 466" on the lower right with no date information, so I suppose it may be an earlier version. I never paid very much attention to the differences before. Hmm...

Martin

[martinola]

On reviewing the photos Tony has posted, you can see the plain "Form 466" in the third photo down. The main difference is that on the plain "Form 466" version the word "standard" is not capitalized. Since it was an official name for a record type, perhaps they saw it as a necessary revision. It looks to have been wholly re-set, or at least the second line of the final paragraph has a different line break.

Neat project, guys. Thanks for bringing this up.

Martin

[Curt A]

I think I'll go for the revised, dated, form...

[NEFaurora]

+1 Curt...

I would go with the Revised Form with Date as well.


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Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

[tomb]

I used a tape measure on it and it was a little difficult on the curve of the lid. It is wider than it is taller. Can someone correct me if I am wrong. It would be nice to have a second opinion . It sort of surprised me too.. Tom B

[Valecnik]

I have a related question. It seems almost all of these labels reference the model D, (Standard, Home or Triumph) even on the E models.

Why would you have instructions on how & when to change from C to H reproducer amd reference to the "Model D" on a machine that came new from the factory with a large carriage and model O? The most logical answer is that they had a bunch of cases with the instructions already stuck in the lids when they transitioned to the E model but if that's the case and the instructions were no longer relevant, why didn't they bother to remove or paper over the obsolete instructions?

[martinola]

I used a tape measure on it and it was a little difficult on the curve of the lid. It is wider than it is taller. Can someone correct me if I am wrong. It would be nice to have a second opinion . It sort of surprised me too.. Tom B

I used a piece of paper and lined up the top left corner and made a pencil mark for the top right edge, then I made a pencil mark for the bottom left corner. Then I measured the marked piece of paper flat. The paper bends far easier than the tape measure.

Martin

[NEFaurora]

The only answer that I can offer is that some of the machines did not come with the labels affixed to the insides of the lids originally from the factory. This is well known and documented. It's entirely possible that some of these machines without lid labels originally were destined for Horizontal Carriages, Cygnet Horns, and other Reproducers. It's also been noticed that some of these lids missing lid labels from the factory also do not have the Wooden blocks with two nails on their undersides either. I think that the wood blocks on the underside of the lids kept the Reproducer carriage from moving during transport while the cover was on. The wood blocks can be seen in some of the earlier lid label pictures that I provided on the first page of this thread.

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Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer