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Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:31 pm
by JerryVan
Phonofreak wrote:A BZH is the same as an Oxford. As said before this is a client machine. Also, the spindle gear is in 2 parts. There is the pesky fiber gear that always needs replacing. The other part is the brass spindle gear, that the fiber gear goes with. I couldn't tell by the pictures, but it looks like the brass gear is missing. Your machine is the later version from about 1912- 1915 or so. The early ones had a stamped oval metal grill, and the early push-pull speed control on the motor. The case was smaller, too.
Harvey Kravitz
estott wrote:VanEpsFan1914 wrote:Hey,
I just redid a machine I believe is an Oxford Talking Machine that is basically the same thing. Are you sure yours isn't an Oxford?
This is yet another Columbia client, and the label reads "BZH HORNLESS TALKING MACHINE" I have no idea what firm marketed them & would like to know.
He is only missing the fiber gear. There is no brass spindle gear on this style of motor.
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:49 pm
by VanEpsFan1914
On mine, which is also this style, the spindle gear was fiber sandwiched in between some giant chunks of brass.
It runs and plays (thanks to the Forum!) but it isn't in the best of health, so I will likely replace this gear soon.
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:02 pm
by Phonofreak
I guess these pillar and plate motors have different variations. Mine has the brass gear along with the fiber gear. That's what makes Columbia/Clients so much fun to work on.
Harvey Kravitz
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:16 pm
by Lucius1958
Interesting how many variations there are on the BZH. Here's mine: forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5317&p=30497
Bill
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:42 pm
by pellicano1
phonogfp wrote:pellicano1 wrote:estott wrote:That was a fiber gear- very quiet, but if they get oil soaked they can disintegrate. That combination on/off/speed control was quite typical of the cheap Columbia product.
Thanks! Now to find one!
Ron Sitko may be able to help you out with the fiber gear.
Also, I believe all the "crank handles" were bored straight through the wood, rather than being male or female.
George P.
I spoke with Ron and he said there are like 5 different ones and he would need to see the motor in person. My search continues!
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:51 pm
by phonogfp
pellicano1 wrote:
I spoke with Ron and he said there are like 5 different ones and he would need to see the motor in person. My search continues!
Why not just send Ron the motor and have him fix it? You'll have it back in a week!
George P.
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:54 pm
by pellicano1
phonogfp wrote:pellicano1 wrote:
I spoke with Ron and he said there are like 5 different ones and he would need to see the motor in person. My search continues!
Why not just send Ron the motor and have him fix it? You'll have it back in a week!
George P.
I may just do that! Also need a crank as well. Maybe I will get lucky and he will have one!
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:49 pm
by Mpellicano
Yea, good luck on the project. Cool machine.
Re: WANTED: Parts for a BZH Columbia Talking Machine
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:59 pm
by pellicano1
Mpellicano wrote:Yea, good luck on the project. Cool machine.
Thanks brother!