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Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:25 pm
by SteveM
New felt from Walt Sommers. I like it.

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:35 pm
by VanEpsFan1914
I've been enjoying your fixup thread here, and the new felt really does help the machine. Walt carries excellent felt--I have orange "dots" of that same woolen material as lid bumpers on my late-1920s Amberola 30. (The serial number is crazy high--as in, they haven't got a higher one found yet--so I am assuming it is a 1925-1929 machine and dotting it accordingly.)

What are you going to do to fix up the horn? It looks nice with the red horn, but that horn itself looks rather used-up. Anyone in your area who can work on brass instruments? Maybe they could help you fix it.

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:20 am
by Marco Gilardetti
Which gets me to the point: the only reason why this oddball was provided with a 5A/5B that clearly doesn't belong to it, is that the 4 was no longer being produced.

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:21 am
by SteveM
Marco Gilardetti wrote:Which gets me to the point: the only reason why this oddball was provided with a 5A/5B that clearly doesn't belong to it, is that the 4 was no longer being produced.

Marco, I THINK (not sure and definitely not an expert here) that the 31a (that critical letter "a") only ever came with a "large-bore tonearm." (Probably the same one as on your 163.) Therefore, the No. 4 would have needed to be modified with a larger isolator gasket to fit. Whereas the 5a/b were sitting there ready to be plopped onto this 31a, which is essentially made of scrap/leftover parts.

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:26 am
by SteveM
VanEpsFan1914 wrote:I've been enjoying your fixup thread here, and the new felt really does help the machine. Walt carries excellent felt--I have orange "dots" of that same woolen material as lid bumpers on my late-1920s Amberola 30. (The serial number is crazy high--as in, they haven't got a higher one found yet--so I am assuming it is a 1925-1929 machine and dotting it accordingly.)

What are you going to do to fix up the horn? It looks nice with the red horn, but that horn itself looks rather used-up. Anyone in your area who can work on brass instruments? Maybe they could help you fix it.
The horn actually (I can't believe I'm saying this ...) looks better in person. I'm on the hunt for a better one, but can't find anything yet. I would love a big 24-incher. Would also love to find an EMG horn for here at home! A guy can dream.

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:40 am
by OrthoFan
SteveM wrote: I would love a big 24-incher.
:shock:
SteveM wrote: Would also love to find an EMG horn for here at home! A guy can dream.
I'd settle for the EMG horn -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P1trPQYh_s

OrthoFan
:roll:

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:16 am
by SteveM
Here's a video ... using a toothpick, the sound is a bit muted, but I had a house full of people. (Girl Trouble by Eddie Walters)

(Double-click the video above or click this link to watch the video on YouTube in HD.)


Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:14 pm
by OrthoFan
SteveM wrote:Here's a video ... using a toothpick, the sound is a bit muted, but I had a house full of people. (Girl Trouble by Eddie Walters)
How in the world did you get a toothpick to play a record??? I've experimented over the years with a variety of gramophones, all of which had restored sound boxes, and have yet to play more than half a side before the tip wore out and the record sounded like mush. I've tried using different toothpicks, re-sharpening the points, etc., but nothing worked.

(Sorry for my above post, but I couldn't stop myself. I'm guilty of having watched "Are You Being Served" when it was on PBS, and it made me hypersensitive to "double-entendres.".)

OrthoFan

BYW,a rolled up sock makes an excellent volume control for an outside horn model.

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:56 pm
by SteveM
OrthoFan wrote:
SteveM wrote:Here's a video ... using a toothpick, the sound is a bit muted, but I had a house full of people. (Girl Trouble by Eddie Walters)
How in the world did you get a toothpick to play a record??? I've experimented over the years with a variety of gramophones, all of which had restored sound boxes, and have yet to play more than half a side before the tip wore out and the record sounded like mush. I've tried using different toothpicks, re-sharpening the points, etc., but nothing worked.

(Sorry for my above post, but I couldn't stop myself. I'm guilty of having watched "Are You Being Served" when it was on PBS, and it made me hypersensitive to "double-entendres.".)

OrthoFan

BYW,a rolled up sock makes an excellent volume control for an outside horn model.
:D :D :D Man .... but 24??? Yikes!
I use these extra hard needles from Amazon. I forget what they’re called but this is what they look like. I use them pretty much all the time at home. I sharpen them with the little rough thingy on my pocket knife. The records have to be at least E though, usually.

Re: HMV 31a issues

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:20 pm
by gramophone-georg
OrthoFan wrote:
SteveM wrote:Here's a video ... using a toothpick, the sound is a bit muted, but I had a house full of people. (Girl Trouble by Eddie Walters)
How in the world did you get a toothpick to play a record??? I've experimented over the years with a variety of gramophones, all of which had restored sound boxes, and have yet to play more than half a side before the tip wore out and the record sounded like mush. I've tried using different toothpicks, re-sharpening the points, etc., but nothing worked.

(Sorry for my above post, but I couldn't stop myself. I'm guilty of having watched "Are You Being Served" when it was on PBS, and it made me hypersensitive to "double-entendres.".)

OrthoFan

BYW,a rolled up sock makes an excellent volume control for an outside horn model.
Yes, and that's exactly how the expression "Stick a sock in it!!" came to be. True story.