Aftermarket carry box for an old Victor?

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George,
Do you know the story of that machine... where and when it was found? It's truly a time machine...
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Curt A wrote:George,
Do you know the story of that machine... where and when it was found? It's truly a time machine...
As seen in the caption, this machine belonged to Alan Mueller when we shot it for a book in 1996. I bought it from Alan 3 years ago, and asked the same question of him. He said that the machine belonged to a local collector of music boxes, who sold it to Alan in the early 1970s. That's all I know about the machine's provenance. I wish I knew more! :(

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Pictures to explain what the whole mess was about. Pardon all the dents in the horn--I wish I had upgraded to a flower horn sometimes.

The box looks enough like the one in that catalog to make me think that it's not H&S like I had presumed, but genuine Victor stuff.
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Case key, never used and still stapled to the box.
Case key, never used and still stapled to the box.
Here be treasure!
Here be treasure!
The box opened. Phonograph stowed inside.
The box opened. Phonograph stowed inside.
View of texture to original fabric.
View of texture to original fabric.
Notches in side compartment hold the tonearm bracket. The reproducer would have been boxed and stored in the small compartment, presumably with the horn elbow.
Notches in side compartment hold the tonearm bracket. The reproducer would have been boxed and stored in the small compartment, presumably with the horn elbow.
Original price tag saying this was for the III, and sold at $3.50--a marked reduction from the $4.25 of the 1904 catalog posted earlier.
Original price tag saying this was for the III, and sold at $3.50--a marked reduction from the $4.25 of the 1904 catalog posted earlier.
Making it all worthwhile--the box did its job for 110 years and the Victor looks as fantastic as it sounds. Once I figured out the early motor design it was a simple enough job to return it to active service.
Making it all worthwhile--the box did its job for 110 years and the Victor looks as fantastic as it sounds. Once I figured out the early motor design it was a simple enough job to return it to active service.

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VanEpsFan1914 wrote: The box looks enough like the one in that catalog to make me think that it's not H&S like I had presumed, but genuine Victor stuff.
Victor didn't manufacture these cases, but bought them from others. There were several aftermarket manufacturers offering these cases.

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OK, good to know! Thanks.

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You bet - - happy to help.

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I bought a Victor MS last summer still in the same carrying case as pictured with the horn in its carrying case as well. I was the first I have ever seen as well. John

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How did you find it, and what was the horn carrier made of?

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