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Re: VE 10-35 Victrola #1
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:57 am
by startgroove
Those posts are supposed to be soft normally. Probably have hardened from age. Black fuel line hose makes a good replacement material. A softer choice would be medical hose, but I don't know if it is available in black. Cheers, Russie
Re: VE 10-35 Victrola #1
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:40 pm
by gramophone-georg
startgroove wrote:Those posts are supposed to be soft normally. Probably have hardened from age. Black fuel line hose makes a good replacement material. A softer choice would be medical hose, but I don't know if it is available in black. Cheers, Russie
I have some heater hose that will work in stock but yes, I would rather have softer. The foam rubber stick on weatherstrip I am using is a good temporary solution. I thought these posts were wood but on closer examination they are super hard rubber.
This machine sure sounds nice. One issue that's popped up is that it doesn't trip about ¼ of the time. Soundbox crook has no play, but the arm does at the base, so I am wondering if that could be the cause. I don't think there is an air leak there, though, because volume is quite good even with a soft tone Tungs Tone needle. I am sure some play there is normal but it has a lot more than the 10-50 does- though the 10-50 is a different design. It wobbles side to side but not up/down. I think this has some effect on the trip mechanism.
Ryder isn't clear on this, so I am wondering if you or any other "changer geeks" have any input. I am not going to play it much more just yet- my plan is to go through and carefully clean/ lube everything and replace all the hard rubber mounts, etc. before really putting this back into service. Wayne bought this quite some time ago but didn't do anything with it. This was a sort of spur of the moment deal so he just made a quick verification that it worked, then into the crate and into the van it went.
I am tending to agree that the metal horn is an improvement. Horn looks to be in excellent sealed condition on examination. I know about the water test but am unsure if I want to disturb it.
My inner changer geek is looking forward to getting all this freshly serviced & just right.

Re: VE 10-35 Victrola #1
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:47 pm
by maginter
gramophone-georg wrote:Phono-Phan wrote:Thanks for posting this machine. I can't believe that the records don't get damaged when they are ejected to the side.
I like living on the edge, I guess. I do plan to add some protective padding to the posts the records come to rest against, though.
A suggestion from someone that has fought this changer along with others....

There are two thing that you will need to attend to if you want to prevent/minimize broken records.
There is a pin with a leather tip that pops up to eject the record. Ensure that the leather is in good condition. Next, the turntable surface it self isn't tacky enough to grip the record when ejected. here are several things that you can do to address this. Recover the turntable with soft leather, apply a light, clear coat of rubber, like silicone.
Here is a video that was provided by Carsten Fischer part of a Greg Bogantz write up on the 10-35. You will need to download it as it will not play in the browser.
Re: VE 10-35 Victrola #1
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:58 pm
by electrolaman 64
Attached is what I do for the bumper posts. Getting the old rubber off is a challenge. I cut it off with a sharp putty knife. Everything bought at McMasters-Carr for this restoration. I also make all new suspension washers and bumper rubber parts. See photos.
I have always covered the turntable in a thin soft red or black leather and it worked splendidly. Cut the appropriate size circle of the leather to form all the way over the side and and under. Spray the fuzzy side leather with a spray adhesive and center the leather then gently form from the center out. I am presently experimenting with the product called "Flex Seal" for the turntable of the VE9-54 I just bought from Wayne. It seems like it will work well, but more on that tomorrow after it has dried over night.
Carlton Smith
electrolaman 64