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Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 11:43 pm
by Jerry B.
Thanks for sharing your machine with us. It's wonderful! We don't often have the opportunity to see such a terrific machine in the states. Jerry Blais

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 4:01 pm
by Starkton
Kirkwood wrote:Did DGAG supply albums for the records, as Victor did for the Victrola? It almost looks like the compartments either side of the speaker would hold one (slender) album each.
DGAG offered albums in three sizes, but only as an extra: 7" and 10" size was red, 12" size blue colored. The album design was registered. While 7" and 10" albums held 12 records each, the 12" size was configured for only 6 records. Hence it is perhaps possible to place two 12" albums each to the left and to the right of the speaker. These albums are pretty scarce and it will take a while to verify my guess.

There is an interesting story behind these albums. In December 1902, a certain Richard Bürgi of Pasing near Munich filed for registered design on a gramophone record album. Deutsche Grammophon quickly reacted and bought the registered design of another record album, filed for in January 1903 by a certain Hugo Fritzsche of Leipzig-Gohlis.

From the beginning, DGAG was extremely agile and always in the lead on the central European disc talking machine market, either by own efforts or by financial strength.

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:36 pm
by alang
This is a beautiful machine! Thank you so much for sharing. I am always surprised how modern the furniture design was in the early 1900s in Europe. And what a difference to the Victrola design.
Thanks again!
Andreas

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:10 pm
by Starkton
While the "De Lux" was the most spectacular in house model, Deutsche Grammophon AG stepped on the gas with a number of unique inside(!!) horn Auxetophones listed in a special 48-pages Auxeto catalogue issued in April 1908. I like the "Auxeto Grand I" (with a hefty catalogue price of $700) most - it displays mainly "Jugendstil" elements with marked traces of "Reformstil". I don't dream to ever lay my hands on one - but this also applied for the "De Lux".

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Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:17 pm
by Valecnik
Beautiful machine! Thanks for posting. Alot of similarities with the VTLA. The triple spring motor must be uncommon too. Seems even the most expensive European models often had one less spring in many cases. The soundbox clip is very unusual too. I assume that's the way it came?

Where and how did you come across such a machine?

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:02 pm
by Starkton
Valecnik wrote:Alot of similarities with the VTLA.
Yes, certainly, and the VTLA is a nice piece of furniture too. At least on three sides. The back of the VTLA just offered on ebay as the "finest" Victor phonograph is knocked up like a fruit box. Where has the mahagony veneer gone? Is this $200 machine a negative anomaly in the model range?
http://cgi.ebay.com/FINEST-VICTOR-PHONO ... 255e32e754

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The triple spring motor must be uncommon too. Seems even the most expensive European models often had one less spring in many cases. The soundbox clip is very unusual too. I assume that's the way it came?

Where and how did you come across such a machine?
The Gramophone Co. equipped all models with 12" turntable with a triple spring motor. I bought the uncommon "sound box clip", also manufactured by the Gramophone Co., separately but at the same time. It simplifies the handling of the Exhibition soundbox very much. It is pictured with original packing on page 165 of "Accessories & Contraptions".

The purchase history is little glorious: As nobody recognized the beauty and the historical value of the "De Lux" it remained unsold for quite some time until I got it for a reasonable price.

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:35 am
by Valecnik
Isn't it great that one can still sometimes pick up an incredibly rare and beautiful machine at a reasonable price just because is does not have a horn???

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:09 am
by antique1973
Awesome machine Starkton! The interior reminds me a bit of my L-door's compartments.
Thanks for posting, never seen a model like this before.

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:41 pm
by frenchmarky
Is that soundbox 'clip' intended to be left on during use, or only for when it is being removed and installed? Wonder how much the clip adds to the weight of the box, if the former.

Re: Featured Phonograph № 68

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:37 am
by Starkton
frenchmarky wrote:Is that soundbox 'clip' intended to be left on during use, or only for when it is being removed and installed? Wonder how much the clip adds to the weight of the box, if the former.
It sits firmly on the soundbox but as the clip is very light it adds only about 5% to the weight. The big advantage is that I can now safely and quickly place the needle near the very start of the groove. As you know the steel needle needs a few turns to grind in the groove profile and the more run-in groove, the better. The clip also facilitates the lifting of the soundbox after play.