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Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:50 pm
by Schlick
gramophone78 wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:36 am
What a fantastic and rare set up. However, no matter how many times you use the word
Melba.....it won't make it so
.
Agreed!!! (I was even a bit surprised Randy listed it that way.) But it's all in honor of my late father's long standing misnomer!! Sort of a running joke, especially in light of all the things he did get right?!
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet..." (Shakespeare)
Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:08 pm
by drh
Schlick wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:50 pm
..."What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet..." (Shakespeare)
"A rose by any other name would smell--and how!" -- some wag whose name I forget
Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:57 pm
by Starkton
This is the early version of the stand, introduced in the fall of 1903, see the floral carvings on the door. Thus fits very well with the contemporaneous gramophone model. Here is a thread on the German forum which shows both versions:
https://grammophon-platten.de/e107_plug ... 42466.last
Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:08 pm
by gramophone78
drh wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:08 pm
Schlick wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 12:50 pm
..."What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet..." (Shakespeare)
"A rose by any other name would smell--and how!" -- some wag whose name I forget
We can only try to educate...
Stephan, I guess my stand is a type II ? I use it for my "Melba" type hot-air Gramophone
Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:42 pm
by Steve
jamiegramo wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:29 pm
You have a great machine there and I prefer it to the Melba. It is a machine I would love to own.
The machine featured in the link you give is a De Luxe II (an overseas version of the ‘New Melba’), this is different to the older style ebonized ‘Melba’. The thread shows that the De Luxe II was sold in Spain as a Monarch 13 but, as far as I know, generally appeared as De Luxe II elsewhere.
Jamie
Agreed. When a machine is as good and as rare as this is (even without the pedestal) I'd love to own it for my collection. I find I care less and less about the academia when it's as fine as this. It takes me right back to the beginning when I craved to find any open horn model to have on display and all the books and fact finding weren't in the frame.
Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:18 am
by epigramophone
In later years the Melba name was applied to this cheaply made machine. What would Nellie have thought?
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... c20069083a
Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 8:39 am
by gramophone78
Yes, and a reproducer to die for.....if you can find one.
- 1904melbasoundbox.jpg (163.52 KiB) Viewed 1220 times
Re: Is this a Melba or not?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 10:47 am
by Starkton
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Stephan, I guess my stand is a type II ? I use it for my "Melba" type hot-air Gramophone :lol: 100_3799.JPGMelba Stand (5).JPG
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Yes, this is the later version (from 1904) of pedestal type II.
By the way, pedestal type I is this: