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Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:28 am
by nostalgia
Anchorman, nice to have another Columbia aficionado aboard :)
I wish you all luck in restoring your Columbia 114 portable. Here are the photos of the winding handle, I hope they can be of use.
I always felt the Garrard motors found in the Japan made Columbia were genuine Garrard motors, since Columbia in the UK had a strong affiliation with Garrard, and the Nippon Columbia were genuine Columbia machines and not knock offs, but if they made certain parts at the Nippon Columbia factories in agreement with Garrard I know nothing about myself.
Let's also hope the photos showing the Japan made Columbias will be available to see again in the Columbia index thread and the Japan made Columbia thread, these are two different thread. I have all the photos on file that I used for these two threads, but it will be an immense task to re upload, also since it is has become impossible to correct old posts, so everything would all have to be re posted, including both the text and the photos.

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:48 am
by anchorman
Thank you! Is that basically the same crank as an HMV 102?

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:50 am
by anchorman
And do you know what model garrard motor this might be in these machines?

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:17 am
by nostalgia
The Columbia winding handle is thinner, it does not fit a HMV 102, to assure..I just tested, since I am today finishing servicing a 102.
I do not have the equipment at hand to show the diameter of the winding handle, but if someone else is not doing it before me, I will be able to measure it in a day or two, when I visit my repair room.
In all honesty, I have not yet serviced a Japan made Columbia, it is on my long list of machines to service, so I can't really tell right here and now what motor(s) are found in these portables, without checking inside one of them. The only one I have at home is the 114, the rest is in my storage locker.

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:24 am
by anchorman
Is there only one groove in the crank? If so, it should be relatively easy for me to eventually make one if I cannot find one!

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:26 pm
by nostalgia
No, it has three grooves, like the 102 handle.

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:24 pm
by anchorman
Thanks! if you get the chance to measure accurately the outside diameter, and the width and depth and length of the grooves, I would appreciate it! it looks like a good motor, and I hate to see mine sit idle for lack of a crank! I can probably find a way to fake it, but having the proper measurements would make it much easier to source or make one.

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:04 am
by nostalgia
I will do my best in a day or two.

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:46 pm
by anchorman
no rush! and thanks!

Re: Columbia model 214 portable

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 7:38 am
by nostalgia
Here are the measurements. The depth of the grooves are the difference between the measures of the outer and inner part of the shaft (3 mm).
Good luck !