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But in the envelope, the adaptor depicted looks exactly the same as the one out of the envelope! Do you have one mystery adaptor in the envelope and another one out? I'm missing something? it's not the same, it has a thumb screw not in the envelope picture...

No, the thumb screw you see in the drawing on the Recordavox envelope is the soundbox thumb screw.
The Recordavox adaptor has no thumb screw. It just has a triangular metal tube basically, which the bamboo needle slides into.
That's the reason I've been tempted to open it, to see how this set up holds the needle in the adaptor firmly. Whether the needle has a slight taper and it jams into the adaptor or what I don't know.

I see, and I noticed later that the pictured one wasn't equal to the other... Sorry!

No need to apologize.
It took me a couple months to realise they were 2 different adaptors, after feeling the contents of the envelope and shining a torch through it from behind.
It was only after discovering there was no thumbscrew present and they were different sizes did I put the adaptor next to picture and realise they were two totally different manufacturers.

Haha! I used to play this guessing game with my children... I put something into a sack, and give the sack to them to guess what was inside, without peeping into it, using only the tact feeling and imagination, memory... Of course I selected strange things from home, but ones they should know by sight. Was lots of fun!

And here's a few more.

rizbone wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 2:23 pm And here's a few more.

I played one of my Grenthorne (sp) needles once. I wonder if they were meant to be used in early tube amplified machines because the audio is very low on a acoustic machine.

I think the mention of "high fidelity recordings" is a pretty good indication these are mean for an electric pickup.
I suspect from you saying they have fairly low volume that they're what was often called "mini thorns", which are about the same gauge as soft tone needles or even thinner.

I wonder whether the museum where I volunteer has any of those "Velvetone" packets: it would certainly make an interesting item for an exhibit...

- Bill

I love the Polydor fibres.
The container must have cost more to manufacture than the needles.

The "Velvetone" needles I've always found interesting, and I'd love to find some one-day and try one.
No more scratching splitting or harshness.
I know what scratching and harshness are, but what is splitting a reference to in this context?