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Thanks for your comments. I am breaking down the machine cabinet right now and making a list of what is missing. It will be a while before the reproducer comes into play. I am a clock guy and have much experience with delicate parts and mechanisms and am not scared of tackling the rebuild. A exploded diagram would be helpful before I would try a disassembly.
Question for the members. what is this? I am missing it along with the used needle cup.

The top strip is a holder for Tungs-Tone needle tins.

Herderz wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 11:46 am Question for the members. what is this? I am missing it along with the used needle cup.
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I don't have a spare needle cup, but I believe I have a spare tungstone needle tin holder.

Are you also missing a lid support on the left side?

Thanks Jerry. I have the left lift cylinder but it will need a rebuild. It was laying in the a box of parts that come with the machine. I will have to see what it takes to rebuilt it. It does not suck and release air like the right one.

Herderz wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 12:30 pm Thanks Jerry. I have the left lift cylinder but it will need a rebuild. It was laying in the a box of parts that come with the machine. I will have to see what it takes to rebuilt it. It does not suck and release air like the right one.

Those are usually referred to as "dashpots". You'll find instructions for rebuilding them on this board and also on YouTube.

Thanks 52089 for the info on correct terms and that there is info on restoring these, I call it by my past experiences which is limited on phono's. Two days in and the list of "to do's" is growing at a rapid rate. I think this machine will carry me through the summer. Which I do not mine and actually why I do these things.

You’ll find the service instructions that Victor supplied to its dealers for the “Air Lid Supports” posted at this link.

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Good luck with the restoration!

Mark

JerryVan wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 12:20 pm

Herderz wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 11:46 am Question for the members. what is this? I am missing it along with the used needle cup.
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I don't have a spare needle cup, but I believe I have a spare tungstone needle tin holder.

Are you also missing a lid support on the left side?

I have a needle tin holder if you still need it. Yours for the cost of shipping. You can have the wood part too, or just the holder. PM with your interest.

It has been over 3 months since I started on the restore. After breaking the machine down and evaluating my starting point there was way more to repair than I thought. I decided to just concentrate on the main cabinet structure. No feet but one and it was in bad shape. Major scrapes through the veneer on the right side front and back edges. Loose veneer on the left side and a gouge that went through the veneer just about from top to the bottom. Someone had taken a screwdriver to the motor board and tonearm board. I salvaged the veneer off of the lid to use on the sides, motor and tonearm boards because I thought the top would look better replacing the whole thing than trying to patch it. I decided to hand scrape the old finish off rather than use stripper. It came off very easily but very time consuming. Stripper to me takes a lot of time to clean up especially on trim and detail edges. Here is a couple of pics but by no means all that I faced. Now for the feet. I had a walnut mantle that came out of a late 1800's house in my home town that I have had for years. It is about 2 ¾" thick and 14" wide by about 6 foot long. It sounded like a good donor for foot material. The dimensions of the one foot I had was 3" tall by 4 ½" diameter so I would need to plane and glue pieces together. I decided to cut 2 feet at a time on the lathe. Just FYI it is not a good ideal to use over 100 year old walnut, hard as a rock. I had to wear gloves because the wood chips were so hot it was burning my hands. Also had to sharpen my chisels multiple times. The pic is a little deceiving as the angle makes them look different diameters but they are the same size. I hand sanded the cabinet and the details and trim with 220. I use small wooden blocks and different wooden dowels in various diameters to sand details and trim to keep the radius and edges crisp. I used American Walnut stain and 4 coats of satin lacquer and a light #0000 wool to finish the surface.

Wow that is really looking amazing. YOu did a fantastic job on the new feet.

Cheers,

David