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Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 3:09 pm
by BigC
Nice but I'm not into flocking! Seriously though thank for everything I got to get that Zenith looked at, its working just needs some finish work. That Victor 80 get all the attention though. My family gets a kick out of seeing it play even though it's around 100 years old. Those Mexican records my mom used to listen too is what I'm after. Going to Mexico in a few months to collect my Walton radio. Maybe I can find some more treasures out there again.
Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 7:10 pm
by AmberolaAndy
BigC wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 3:09 pm
Nice but I'm not into flocking! Seriously though thank for everything I got to get that Zenith looked at, its working just needs some finish work. That Victor 80 get all the attention though. My family gets a kick out of seeing it play even though it's around 100 years old. Those Mexican records my mom used to listen too is what I'm after. Going to Mexico in a few months to collect my Walton radio. Maybe I can find some more treasures out there again.
Ahh that Zenith featured in the Walton’s surprised they went with that radio for the show and not the Philco I have that I hope the repairman gets to next.
Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 7:39 pm
by BigC
Wow thats really nice. I found that radio when I went to a antique store in Aguascalientes Mexico. What's funny is that it was playing when I walked in. A quick search in the internet and the fact that she only wanted $250 for it made me get it. Now I just have to bring it back and have it restored.
Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:44 pm
by gunnarthefeisty
The correct answer here is "A machine from the 40s." No matter what reproducer you put on your VV-80, you'll wear down any post '30s discs real quick. A No.4 will play pre 40s records nicely though
Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:11 am
by BigC
That's what I wanted to know because I am really worried about those records from 1945. My mom said her family had a Victrola with a external horn so who knows what it was because she was only around 7 years old at the time. She recalls everyone would come to the ranch to listen to music because nobody had one in that area. It took my uncle 2 years to pay for it. They did use steal needles because she remembers them changing them out. Maybe the records from Mexico were not as modern as the American records? I don't know but one thing I would love is to play some old Mexican 78s for her on a Victor phonograph. Maybe I'll just have to sacrifice a couple of them and take my VV-50 to her house and have a concert.
Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:34 am
by gramophone-georg
BigC wrote: Mon May 30, 2022 12:11 am
That's what I wanted to know because I am really worried about those records from 1945. My mom said her family had a Victrola with a external horn so who knows what it was because she was only around 7 years old at the time. She recalls everyone would come to the ranch to listen to music because nobody had one in that area. It took my uncle 2 years to pay for it. They did use steal needles because she remembers them changing them out. Maybe the records from Mexico were not as modern as the American records? I don't know but one thing I would love is to play some old Mexican 78s for her on a Victor phonograph. Maybe I'll just have to sacrifice a couple of them and take my VV-50 to her house and have a concert.
Actually, they weren't as modern. If you use fiber needles, you don't really need to worry. A non compliant reproducer will wear the fiber needle out rather than the record.
Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:39 am
by gramophone-georg
gunnarthefeisty wrote: Sun May 29, 2022 11:44 pm
The correct answer here is "A machine from the 40s." No matter what reproducer you put on your VV-80, you'll wear down any post '30s discs real quick. A No.4 will play pre 40s records nicely though
Not entirely so. A correctly rebuilt #4 reproducer with a supple isolator will work fine on post 1940 shellac discs with soft tone, or preferably fiber, needles. I play post 1940s records on my 10-50 and 10-35 changers quite frequently with a correctly rebuilt Orthophonic reproducer and Tungs Tone soft tone needles with no ill effects. Cleaning the records properly also helps.
I'd use fiber needles, but these sort of defeat the whole purpose of a changer.
Re: Best reproducer for 1945 records
Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:15 am
by BigC
Ohhhh Funny thing you mentioned the Tungs Tone needles because I am new to this hobby but I'm also extremely OCD. I collect everything I can find and as you know I ask questions about everything. Anyway back to the Tungs Tone needles I have a tin full of of them I got with a purchase of a VV-50.