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Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:01 am
by AmberolaAndy
Ok forget this post I kinda figured it out.

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:08 am
by AmberolaAndy
Here’s the top. Anything look crooked or out of the ordinary?

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:00 pm
by JerryVan
You're making this way too hard for yourself. Take a breath, read Gov. Flyball's description slowly, and take your time. There is nothing you can do to break anything, so put that out of your mind. You are so VERY close to getting this right. You simply need to get the brake part sitting on the 2 little pointy areas of the motor casting. The pointy areas are supposed to sit in the 2 little divits in the brake part. The idea is that the brake part can then "teeter totter" over the pointy areas. The spring that rides on the brake decides which way the brake tips, as in "on" or "off". You can 100% do this!!! Just relax!

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:28 pm
by Raphael
This is a fairly common problem, it flummoxed me the first time it occurred as well. It has also happened to several of my customers, who in their enthusiasm to unpack their machine pulled it out when removing the tissue paper packing that I use. I've even had to explain the solution in Chinese (thanks to Google translator).

Jerry is 100% right, just walk away from it for a while, then go back and study the piece and the mech for a bit - the solution may jump right out at you. That's the way crossword puzzles are solved: not by focusing on the word you're stuck on but by working other areas of the puzzle and then coming back to the problem area with your mindset in a different frame.

Raphael

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:31 pm
by AmberolaAndy
JerryVan wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:00 pm You're making this way too hard for yourself. Take a breath, read Gov. Flyball's description slowly, and take your time. There is nothing you can do to break anything, so put that out of your mind. You are so VERY close to getting this right. You simply need to get the brake part sitting on the 2 little pointy areas of the motor casting. The pointy areas are supposed to sit in the 2 little divits in the brake part. The idea is that the brake part can then "teeter totter" over the pointy areas. The spring that rides on the brake decides which way the brake tips, as in "on" or "off". You can 100% do this!!! Just relax!
Issue is I can see one pointy thing on the casting but I can’t see the other one? Sorry if I’m acting too dramatic but sometimes the simplest thing set me off and I get panicky and can’t think, Yay anxiety!

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:35 pm
by AmberolaAndy
Raphael wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:28 pm This is a fairly common problem, it flummoxed me the first time it occurred as well. It has also happened to several of my customers, who in their enthusiasm to unpack their machine pulled it out when removing the tissue paper packing that I use. I've even had to explain the solution in Chinese (thanks to Google translator).

Jerry is 100% right, just walk away from it for a while, then go back and study the piece and the mech for a bit - the solution may jump right out at you. That's the way crossword puzzles are solved: not by focusing on the word you're stuck on but by working other areas of the puzzle and then coming back to the problem area with your mindset in a different frame.

Raphael
Good to know I’m not alone but I’m looking everywhere for that other Pivot point that’s not the one next to the speed knob and I just can’t see it? I’m walking away once the cartoon steam starts coming out of my ears lol!

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:47 pm
by AmberolaAndy
Ok so where is this other pivot point? I see the one point and not the other. What am I overlooking here? What am I just not seeing? I said I was gonna ask a 1000 stupid obvious and really specific questions!

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:54 pm
by FellowCollector
Looks like you have it pretty close to correct to me. The blue arrows in my picture below point to the alignment divots for the yoke. The on/off spring steel tab should hold the subject Triumph speed control yoke in place if you've installed it correctly. This was a pretty crappy design, in my opinion, as the yoke can come loose and fall down in between the spring barrels and the casting pretty easily. It very commonly loosens and falls off.

Doug

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:59 pm
by Governor Flyball
Try removing the brake arm and look at it. You will see on the underside the two divets.

Now look the motor casting. There will be two pointy protrusions. The pointy protrusions form the fulcrum that align and fit into the divets.

With the brake are removed, take a photo. It should be obvious once the arm is removed.

Re: How do I put a brake on a Triumph? 😳

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 2:06 pm
by AmberolaAndy
FellowCollector wrote: Tue Jun 07, 2022 1:54 pm Looks like you have it pretty close to correct to me. The blue arrows in my picture below point to the alignment divots for the yoke. The on/off spring steel tab should hold the subject Triumph speed control yoke in place if you've installed it correctly. This was a pretty crappy design, in my opinion, as the yoke can come loose and fall down in between the spring barrels and the casting pretty easily. It very commonly loosens and falls off.

Doug
So that second Pivot point IS the speed screw on the top? Am I correct? :?

If anyone wants to see here’s the other part of that switch

I’m still 100% convinced I got a bad spring here or it’s in too tight I know that spring goes in a certain place over that screw.